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Major Google Changes

Significant movements in rankings.

     

Imaster

2:12 pm on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

It seems that a major google update is under way. I just checked www.google.com with the normal set of keywords that I generally use to monitor any changes and found what I believe is a major update. Now its back to original results. Its kinda on and off.

One of my site had a 50% increase in the number of pages crawled.

I hadn't much chance to check out whether the update spells good news or not, so lets keep our fingers crossed.

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[edited by: ciml at 2:15 pm (utc) on Dec. 16, 2004]
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GaryK

1:03 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've got a site that used to be #3 for its keyword. Then I got banned for duplicate content when I accidentally left my development server open to the Internet. Now after nearly a year my site is back in the #3 slot. Except when I clicked on the link I got this error message from Google:

Server Error
The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.

Please try again in a minute or so.

But at least there do seem to be changes afoot.

iblaine

1:12 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yikes, now that I see what Google has done looks like it's time to start spamming blogs again.

GameMasterM

1:19 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My blogs with Blogspot are now showing up on Google SERPs yipee for me. #4 for my keyword under blog with one of them but that's a good thing since before today I was not found at all on G when I was #1 on Teoma and MSN. For me this is a positive change.

DerekH

1:22 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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iblaine wrote
Yikes, now that I see what Google has done looks like it's time to start spamming blogs again.

OK - you go do that, but I'm not so sure that precipitative action like that is going to achieve what you hope.

<stop> <consider>
Actually, on reflection, would you like to do so as a controlled experiment and report back in 3 weeks - it would be really helpful.
DerekH

twebdonny

2:58 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)



Merry Christmas from Google, bahhhh humbug, you've been Scrooged.

irishaff

3:38 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I observe the folllowing:

Same if slightly more weight to inbound anchor
No change for on the page anchor
Keyword density - slightly up
Title - slightly down
Text towards beginning of the page - up
H1 - up

I like many people can report to be holding steady for my prized words but have slipped slightly for broader terms which may have been spread through the copy. Nothing major in this shift me thinks. But my sample is not very big.

Im sure that a PR change thats rumoured is factored in now , but i cant see any BL etc. update.

annej

3:41 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It looks like some old data has slipped in there. I'm seeing duplicate pages again from the site that is 'about' stuff that used to 'mine' stuff. For a long time they weren't listing their duplicate pages.

woop01

4:14 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We're seeing old stuff too. In fact it has two versions of our site at #1 and #2, one the old domain name cache taken on April 19th and the other the current domain name taken on December 15th.

Edit: We're seeing a LOT of old stuff from our sites.

nzmatt

4:20 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Merry Christmas from Google, bahhhh humbug, you've been Scrooged.

Yes, Scroogled

Or, perhaps Screwoogled

shri

4:56 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Merry Christmas from Google

Not complaining. Lost a number of page 1 entries in this round, but I have to admit I was expecting it. I'm just glad that the update was towards the tail end of the shopping season and not the begining.

Great time to start contemplating and planning for next year. :)

Spine

5:17 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm happy with what I see for my own selfish reasons.

My site that was semi-dropped on Sept 23rd is back on page 1, and with #1 postions better than before.

I still see spam and irrelevant stuff, but as long as I'm above it, the world makes more sense.

Also, I haven't used any fishy SEO or blog spamming.

Hope it stays where it is so that I can finally relax after 3 months of stressing.

caveman

6:14 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anyone who owns blogs, spams blogs, or owns blogs and then blogspams other blogs to pump up their own blog, is sitting pretty right now.

Well done G. :-\

steveb

6:19 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"I agree with caveman."

<just checking to see if those words can exist on a page>

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A sure sign of Google having problems is when the same URL appears multiple times in the serps. Seeing that a lot right now.

[edited by: steveb at 6:30 am (utc) on Dec. 17, 2004]

shri

6:30 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I suspect this has something to do with people buying out old domains and abusing their PR .. they want new fresh inbounds on ranking terms. Blogs are an easy way to game them.

webnewton

7:10 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Surely an update at Google, but this is a limited update not a major one. I would say Google is out of its slumber.

highman

7:55 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Around september 23rd a site of mine lost half of it's google traffic....Main front page keywords stayed solid at #1 and #2, but the site lost ranking for dozens of smaller keyword combos on sub pages....Today most of those sub pages are back at pre sept 23rd Top #5 positions.

Ditto that - so gald I sat tight and made no knee jerk reactions :)

However, I dont think the fat lady has stopped singing yet... I wouldnt run off looking for blog right now

tigger

7:59 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree time to wait a while and let her settle down, what ranks now won't necessarily be the case in 2 hours

canuck

8:47 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems the Google Directory has updated its category PRs too... wonder if we'll see the toolbar PR updated after this d@nŠe...

adfree

8:51 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lost 50% traffic yesterday, wait and see...

Dayo_UK

8:52 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Great - my only site that is not in the sandbox has taken a dive.

Thanks a load Google - happy Xmas!

jaffstar

8:56 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All my positions seem to be constant. Some sites jumped up 150 positions in the serps.

I noticed that some of my sites disappeared yesterday but are all back today.

seolancer

9:06 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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and my site is still not picked by google waiting from a month now...

sahuman

9:27 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And I am looking into the classifieds now....

filo

9:45 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow, I lost major ranking on a few of the keywords I moniter -- kind of depressing. I hope this isn't a long lasting algorithem/rollback/whatever it is.

I'll have to check my numbers over the coming week to see how much of a hit I'll take but this does not look good.

whatley

10:05 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Slight change in SERPs, nothing to write home about really, and no real change in traffic either. But will wait and see.

Happy Christmas Guys

leoo24

11:07 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i've had one site hit real hard, from #2 to #130 :(

i really really hope it doesn't stay that way, first time ever that i've had a site drop in the serps during an update. All my site plowed through florida no probs.

adfree

11:18 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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About two casks of single malt will be sufficient to let the dust settle. Will be back in two days or buy two more...

seolancer

11:32 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hey then i wonder what will happen to my site whihc is not crawl by google or if itis crawl then not index by google.... i m waiting since long time..

petehall

11:34 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I still haven't a clue what anyone's on about.

All of our sites are still fine, except for one brief moment when there was a severe lack of data on each search...

The only thing that has happened is a non-profit site that vanished during August / September is now ranking for all it's terms again.

Dynamoo

11:42 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Petehall, there are definitely some major shifts going on. I record certain high-perfoming keywords at every update, and they're all over the shop.

Look peeps, we haven't had one of these for a while so REMEMBER that it usually takes time to settle down. Don't make any rash decisions while Google is still doing its dance.

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