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That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)
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With hundreds of PHDs/programmers on staff, something tells me they would be able to come up with a stronger response than... "lets not let any sites in the past half year or more rank for any keywords."
It seems to make some sense though. For one thing, by adding a delay for new sites & external links, they are putting a real cost on being banned for spamming. In the past, spammers could bounce right back with a new domain with fresh links.
...by adding a delay for new sites & external links, they are putting a real cost on being banned for spamming. In the past, spammers could bounce right back with a new domain with fresh links.
Talk about 'throwing out the baby with the bath water'! :)
With MSN beta very close to going live (according to the other thread, it has been slowly rolling out since Dec. 1), hopefully Google will finally be forced to release their expanded index (which I believe they have already ready to go) as I believe they will use it to overshadow MSN's new search engine in the news.
hopefully Google will finally be forced to release their expanded index (which I believe they have already ready to go) for the main purpose of overshadowing MSN's new search engine in the press.
HaHaHa - Nice one airpal...
Yes, I'm sure they will have something ready to fire. If your suggestion does come to fruition, however, Google will loose a lot of support and respect by everyone from searchers to website owners.
Spammers, being at the cutting edge of SEO, would go out and buy 500 domains/sites that are over a year old, to play with.
Most likely what Google are doing is sandboxing external links, rather than just the domains. So unless said spammer has somehow picked up a load of well-aged on-topic links for his 500 standby domains, he is out of luck.
Thats my theory anyway. Has anyone had luck with taking an existing parked domain, giving it fresh links, and having it rank for competitive keywords?
If your suggestion does come to fruition, however, Google will loose a lot of support and respect by everyone from searchers to website owners.
They've already lost a lot of respect, the only webmasters that respect them now are the people making big $$ from their old sites/rankings, which I can't argue with.
However, there were spam sites 1, 2, 3, and 4 years ago, and they didn't pull the plug on all new sites then... Which is all the more reason, I feel they probably have a coding/hardware issue they're working to fix or have fixed. But they're taking their sweet time and keeping it under wraps because they don't want to affect their stock price by announcing "we forgot to mention that shortly after the IPO, we realized that we had to rewrite most of our code, and upgrade all our hardware to be able to handle a much larger index size than we had planned for when the company first started." With most investors aware of a new MSN engine about to come out and how nobody likes to bet against Microsoft when they enter a market, that would be a disaster for the GOOG holders. Cmon, Eric Schmidt, hurry up and cash in your 147 mill so you can get back to improving your engine...
Has anyone had luck with taking an existing parked domain, giving it fresh links, and having it rank for competitive keywords?
I used an existing parked domain (years old but never used), gave it fesh links, and added 2000 pages of unique content. (The site has twice as many quality incoming links as any competitor and 4-5 times the content of the next bigest competitor and is conservatively SEOed)
I am in the Google sandbox! You should see the SERPS in MSN Beta!
I would have the majority of my links on theme.
As even if this isnt an issue now it will be in the future.
The only offtopic links I have are to my sites .
I think it would be easy to devalue offtopic links.
I think some sites will get wiped when that happens.
It seems to make some sense though. For one thing, by adding a delay for new sites & external links, they are putting a real cost on being banned for spamming. In the past, spammers could bounce right back with a new domain with fresh links.
We are not talking spammers here, we are talking everyone and everything (effectively.)
They've already lost a lot of respect, the only webmasters that respect them now are the people making big $$ from their old sites/rankings, which I can't argue with.
Google is not in the business of winning the respect of Webmasters. I would guess that this is the last thing that concerns them in their mission to "Organise the World's Information." :(
We all know about the power of advertising. As an example, if M$ want to go for this they could spend the advertising money to turn it round, not necessarily to take over but to make a big impression. Then, when people start MSN'ing as opposed to Googling, who knows?
If your only source of income is free traffic, you had better start learning the world of paid advertising real quick.
Very true. However, in many cases, and for one of my sites being effected by the current Google wierdness in particular, that money would probably be better spent on old fashioned print advertising. Adwords is too flaky and inconsistent and Overture, though better, isn't that much better. At least when you do a print media buy, you know exactaly what you're getting and how much it will cost. Online advertising is a drain as you have to check every hour to make sure that you haven't been bumped.
At least when you do a print media buy, you know exactaly what you're getting and how much it will cost.
Tell that to advertisers who paid for phantom circulation in newspapers like NEWSDAY and the CHICAGO SUN-TIMES. :-)
For more on this, see Jack Shafer's "Ghost Readers:
Is everybody in the newspaper business inflating circulation?" article in SLATE at:
[slate.msn.com...]
Google has established its position in the world of SE's ,it will take years and lots of marketing effort from MS$ to convince the end user to use there machine. As about those beta results and relevant its only fools and horses.
3 things:
1. I agree that Google is simply dominating all competitors at this point.
2. Microsoft has (I'm guessing) 80%+ market share in the Operating System industry? If they integrate search as a major/easily accessible feature in Longhorn, and if its half decent, its game over.
3. I never bet against Bill Gates.
