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Deepcrawl is the bot that starts with 216...Freshbot starts with 68. The deepcrawl for everyone else here was from the 15-25thIsn't the deepcrawl bot actually 216.239.46.xx? I recall there was something from Google running around last month that started with 216.239 but was not 46 that caused some confusion about the crawl starting early.
Athlon - It is fi that Aol is showing.
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Looks like AOL and Y would be good additions to a dance tool.
That is almost certainly the case. I dont think the #1 portal on the internet would rely on a single Google datacenter for search results.
Google itself almost certainly dynamically switches the datacenters queired by Yahoo! based on the current load and availability of the datacenters at the moment a search is executed.
It wouldnt surprise me if Google also directs traffic to certain datacenters based on the keyword(s) queried. Some datacenters might have caches that are highly optomized for certain high traffic keywords or search string patterns.
I asked the same thing in an earlier thread but nobody put any good ideas forward.
It's not the end of the world that Google have gone with old deepcrawl data but it surprises me that they didn't use newer data before going live. They don't usually mind delaying things so that everything is perfect.
Perhaps the latest deepcrawl data won't be ready for a couple of weeks? Some people believe it takes a few weeks to calculate PR and perhaps with the number of pages indexed growing all the time it now takes longer than that even. I last saw the deepcrawl on 27th April.
I got the impression from something GG said that the SERP's were going to be so much improved that it was worth going with old deepcrawl data. The only big differences I can see in the SERP's I've looked at can be explained by the fact old deepcrawl data is being used, nothing revolutionary as far as I can see.
I wonder if GG will outline the improvements after the update. He let us all know about the expired domain filter last update.
Earlier today I did actually see -fi itself return the site at #3 but it has now gone back. Looks the dancing version of -fi has propogated to data centres that feed Google partners.
None of us understand why AOL and Y! are showing these results. Load balancing is not a good explanation.
WHY IN THE WORLD ARE THESE RESULTS SHOWING? Why in the world would G release an index which is flat out bad. Whose interest is this serving?
It would be nice to see someone with authority give a rationale explanation to this irrationale behavior, as it is down right ticking thousands of people off.
Since -fi data is showing up at AOL & Netscape, we can conclude one or more of the following:
1. GoogleGuy's expectations are not proving accurate
2. Google is having technical problems
3. Google is publishing -fi serps to it's partners, but still plans on using -sj serps itself
"Who's interest is this serving?"
Certainly not the interest of the webmaster. Google doesnt really care about us, the webmaster.
I can tell you now that when my Grandma goes to Google or Yahoo and searches for "sewing machines" she doesnt say ... "ah these SERPS are crap! Google blows!"
She finds a few sites about sewing machines and she is happy. Thats all that counts in the eyes of Google.
Google is even happier when my Grandma clicks on AdWords because a frustrated webmaster is unhappy with his SERPS and is ponying up for PPC.
[edited by: mrbrad at 8:37 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]
- aol and yahoo might wish for different algorithms i.e. serving paying customers better
- google thinks it wise to diversify
so in the end there actually will be different results in google, aol and yahoo depending on philosophy and paying cusstomers
I just don't understand what netscape is doing in all this...
maybe just forget about this theory
[edited by: crobb305 at 8:53 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]
Something that would support that theory though is that Yahoo's serps seem to be coming out of somewhere different than anything we have seen for at least a week now. And perhaps AOL and Netscape have a program for their size, it was sj/fi and we saw it early.
Hopefully the ending would be that Google's www serps come out with shock and awe at their completeness and cleanliness.
However, Grandma may also try out a few other search engines, and if she like the results the others give better, she may switch to them. It may not be she says "Google blows!", but that she thinks "I like msn.com better than Google."