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www-sj results are showing:
338,000 back links for dmoz
384,000 back links for yahoo
Just something else to think about!
Is anyone else hoping to improve bragging rights?
sj just doesn't mean anything unless it filters though to become the next updated index.
Since the backlinks are wacky on sj the PR will be wacky. So, the SERP's will be wacky.
It's all general wackiness. Someone at G coulda just pressed the wrong button. ;)
AW
I agree they are wack... but what if? What if Google has changed the algo to only count lets say PR3 or higher back links will it help or hurt you on Page Rank?
I don't see why Google would do that.
Based on the sj SERP's that does not seem to be the case for what I monitor.
A PR3 site may be a PR3 site because of PR1 and 2 sites. If you don't count all those PR1's and 2's then ya'd need to get PR3 by linking to PR3+.
Then PR3 really becomes PR1...since PR1's and 2's wouldn't count.
AW
This will not work for mathematical reasons. The calculation (equations) would depend on the results which is not a valid definition.
www2. & www3. look normal (for my key words).
do we know why the -sj results are on www.?
Not for me.
I know it's a datacenter
[edited by: darkroom at 3:54 pm (utc) on May 4, 2003]
After getting deeped in April to the tune of 10,000 pages, that's not my idea of a good index. :)
Peter
I think its pretty funny how people either think an update is excellent or horribly spammy based solely on how their sites are listed. Seems to me all updates are pretty much equally spammy just in different areas. Personally I think the sj results are excellent but thats just because my site is doing a little better on it.
Exactly. If your site's are doing well, then: "Wow! What a great update. Google rules!" If your site's are doing not so well, then: "What the hell?!?! Google is out of their mind, this update sucks! Google will be out of business soon!"
Not to mention, we don't even know for sure that these sj results have anything to do with an update, and all things (Googleguy) point to it NOT being it.
I am sure those R&D guys are reading all the posts in this thread to get feedback. They let you see what happening in www-sj is because they need feedback.
So keep on posting!
The bad things is, why test the new algo with an OLD database?
I am sure those R&D guys are reading all the posts in this thread to get feedback. They let you see what happening in www-sj is because they need feedback.
ok, r & d guys, the sj results suck. :D
(seriously, they really do, believe me, im not sh***** you guys either, even though im numero uno in the sj serps for evry website i ever built, on every target kp ;))
AthlonInside,
Using an old database and applying all the freshies in sequence is the only way to check if the old database converges to the new version...
Starting with a fresh database won't allow Google to check how the database is updated with new data (if a continuous update is the direction they take, of course)
Dan
I wish we could put it to rest. I strongly believe there ARE absolutes in this case. For example, on my keyword -SJ now has the #1 site as a page with NOTHING on it but a one sentence message "future home of widgets!". I KNOW this site is using cloaking techniques. The #2 site is a korean widget manufacturer with a PR3. I have a PR 6+ which is well optimized for "widgets" . It has been #1 for months but -SJ has it at #4 behind the two sites I just described.
So if you are a surfing Googler and you are searching for Widgets, does -SJ have good results? You know who is a worthy competitor in your industry and who has a quality site. So if you're honest, you CAN judge good results from bad.
Can we please put to rest the "it's all in the eye of the serp beholder" argument?
Is there a big portal that uses primarily the sj data centre? I once read a couple of claims that yahoo received the SERPS from one data centre, but I can't remember which. It isn't the sj one as I just checked.
Any ideas?
Rob
some people are aaying this is not updte or not preview of new update etc. if this was jsut a their internal test of somekind then why isnzt googleguy jumpin in and posting "this is just some test we at gogle are doing". we now have over 10 pages long discusion.if this was nothing serious GG would probably tell by now - he was in is very< helpful here.
so lack of GG response could mean that it is some more "serious" thing :)
or he enjoys and laugh on our brainstorming :)
Worst case scenario would seem to be just that something is seriously hosed at the sj datacenter. If so, Google could just keep that from showing on www and all would be fine. I see no reason to think that this is a sign of a Google meltdown or such.
Except that sj does keep popping up in www. :)
It would be nice to know what was going on - guess I gotta wait and see.
