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trannack

2:21 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just recently, and this is not a complaint, I have had a couple of replies to threads pulled as being off topic. I totally understand the reasoning behind this. However, a number of threads seem to get moved to other forums on WW. Speaking for myself, I only tend to visit two forums on WW, within these forums I feel I have got to know - and understand - a lot of how the regulars on these forums think, what makes them tick, what their general areas of expertise are etc. Although none of us have ever met, I often think of these people if not as friends, as working colleagues.

There are often times when I would like to post a question to get feedback from these people that I feel I have got to know and trust, but feel it is going to be off topic and either pulled or moved to another forum that I do not know or visit.

I have enjoyed the sometimes light relief banter that goes on here - and the sometimes flippant comments that get thrown around - re fridges, and mouse tracking etc. Is there any way that WW could almost put a subforum within a forum? ie "adsense off topic forum" or some such thing? Just a thought.:)

OptiRex

4:57 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)



Opti, on Adsense Island the pub and the bank would be together in the same room.

Aha! A pal of mine has a late night license bar complete with ATM right next to the bar counter:-)

Incidentally, did you all move to AdSense island whilst I was in Italy?

No wonder it's quiet round here:-)

jatar_k

4:57 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> It does to AdSensers

which is why they are deluded

you can't even contemplate adsense with out
content [webmasterworld.com] and even if you have content you may not know how to use it [webmasterworld.com]. You can't put up a site at all if you don't have some html [webmasterworld.com], maybe a little javascript [webmasterworld.com] but definitely some CSS [webmasterworld.com] for blending and styling.

If you expect your site to do anything useful then I suggest you use a little PHP [webmasterworld.com], PERL [webmasterworld.com] or even an MS [webmasterworld.com] solution. This could let you include that adsense code of yours across multiple pages or help your site management in amazing ways. You may even need a database [webmasterworld.com] to manage all that stupendous content you are writing.

Since you can't have a website without a server then you better learn something about Apache [webmasterworld.com] or IIS [webmasterworld.com].

Let's see, we haven't even arrived at the possibility of adsense yet

and if you do have a site you are definitely going to need some traffic. Maybe a visit to the Marketing World [webmasterworld.com] will give you some help getting things going.

and that is just a start.

we still haven't arrived at adsense

so...

the more members that wander around other forums, the better

we would be doing our members a disservice if we didn't encourage them to take full advantage of everything there is to offer

OptiRex

5:00 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)



which is why they are deluded

Oh! So no AdSensers know about ANY of the things you highlight?

Strange...I'll go back to sleep now, my skills are not required any more:-)

martinibuster

5:00 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I understand that the AdSense forum is almost it's own sub-community with it's own culture and I try to respect that as much as possible.

However I can imagine it may be distressing for a thread initiator, especially for a new member, to see their post sink under the weight of one then three then five off-topic jokes all riffing off the first lighthearted remark. It comes down to respect for the OP and the discussion they initiated.

Naturally, one lighthearted remark isn't going to destroy a thread, and a little levity here and there is welcome. But oftentime that one remark spawns multiple responses and the thread is effectively killed. So one way to think of it is that these kinds of comments can be considered thread killers.

OTOH: In praise of light banter
Humor enhances a sense of community and I appreciate that. My personal opinion is that a post can indeed be on-topic and humorous, as long as respect is shown to the OP and the topic itself.

jatar_k

5:13 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> Oh! So no AdSensers know about ANY of the things you highlight?

you know that isn't what I said Opti

hehe, if that was true Google would be in big trouble ;)

>> a post can indeed be on-topic and humorous, as long as respect is shown to the OP and the topic itself.

exactly

ann

5:18 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmm,
click on forums index - scroll down to Google world and click on adsense then search topics to find ----etc.

Yep, whole other building...'

'Ann

jimbeetle

5:19 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The main difference between Adsensers and the rest of the forums is we are grinding out a living for ourselves so there is more of a social bond.

Ahh, this is exactly why you have to get out and about a bit more often. ;-)

You would find that many, if not the majority, of WebmasterWorld members are "grinding out a living" for themselves, whether through Adsense, affiliate marketing, Mom and Pop e-commerce shops, freelance design and coding, etc. Every one of the other fora are filled with "independent" web professionals.

There's a lot of commonality all across WebmasterWorld.

For those folks who think the Foo forum is on the other side of the world and want a handy-dandy link to it, simply go to the system preferences page of your control panel. You can put any links you'd like in the custom code insert top and bottom fields.

trannack

5:23 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Guys. Really glad it has all stayed OT! Jatar-K - I appreciate the points about on topic. My original question - to go back to it :) was whether it would be possible to have a subsection foo-type thing for the Googlers out there. Adsense is possibly one of the biggest forums on WW - and perhaps our twisted sense of humour would be better suited to a separate area? That way the asides could be kept off the threads - but in their own way still be related to the content of the specific forums. I mean I am sure everyone is really cheesed off with me harping on about the fridge but.....and to any other forum members this would mean absolutely nothing, and in a way would be OT in the foo!

Quite often the OT comments appear when a thread has drawn to its natural conclusions - therefore the lightheartedness is well appreciated. IMHO

This was not intended as a criticism of WW - more like a request for perhaps a future implementation. Hey maybe after a pre-determined number of posts we could be awarded a fridge or something.....

SuzyUK

5:23 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Optirex.. >> Oh! So no AdSensers know about ANY of the things you highlight?

I don't think that's what he was saying at all, actually he's saying that there's no need to isolate yourselves as a sub community under the umbrella of the adsense forum, because you *do* know about the other things too, you must do or you wouldn't even have a site to put your adsense on.

Sharing/Learning that knowledge around the other Forums is the ethos of WebmasterWorld, who's tagline is..

News and Discussion for the Web Professional

When cliques (I'm sorry for terminology but that's what this would feel like to me) form in an online community that's when others will feel left out and the whole community will suffer as a result. Why not get into the habit of starting a thread like the friday foo thread in the Foo forum just with adsense humor on it, something like an "Adsense Cafe" thread. If you adsensers need to chat about your day/week everyone will get into the habit of going into their local cafe to chat! That way your online friends can join in and the normally quiet lurkers who are maybe put off by the gang, can get to know your humour and may even join in.. in both the Foo Forum and they might even join in with Adsense discussions again :)

[added] sorry JK answered his own post while I was on't phone! hope I didn't speak out of turn ;)

[edited by: SuzyUK at 5:27 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2006]

Jenstar

5:25 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> contrary to popular belief the world does not resolve around adsense, nor does everything in the webmastering world relate to adsense

You sure about that jatar_k ;)

[edited by: Jenstar at 5:25 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2006]

Khensu

5:26 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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<snikers quietly to himself in the dark>

Gee you never know whois hanging around.

[edited by: Khensu at 5:30 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2006]

jatar_k

5:36 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Jen just likes trying to wind me up, she knows I'm immune

right on the money SuzyUK :) which answers trannack's actual question

Khensu

5:58 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We could tag every thread we start in foo in the subtitle

"Adsense Foo"

Then let others beware!-!-!

or you could do exactly what you did with this thread and put it in foo but pin it in the middle/top of the first page the Adsense fourm.

That is all we are asking (at this point).

We don't want to exclude anyone, we just want to include the usual suspects. We could title it "Random Adsense Foo".

trannack what do you think?

[edited by: Khensu at 6:12 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2006]

Hawkgirl

6:22 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think the whole point of keeping Foo in Foo is that helps us keep a sense of community.

Frankly, I want you adsensers hanging out with the rest of us more often ... so please come have fun with us in Foo (and sometimes here in Community Center, too, although we tend to be more serious here).

A lot of people tend to stick around in the few areas they know very well ... but we don't want everything to be so insular here. We WANT everyone to come together in the common areas. Not only does that get us all talking more, but it gets more knowledge passed around, too.

More than anything else, think of it as a compliment. We like you, now come play with the rest of us more often! :)

Etonian

6:32 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Posted by jimbeetle:
For those folks who think the Foo forum is on the other side of the world and want a handy-dandy link to it, simply go to the system preferences page of your control panel. You can put any links you'd like in the custom code insert top and bottom fields.

Excellent tip - thanks a lot.

Pengi

7:24 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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To me, going to the foo for a chat or a joke is not the same. Yes I've visited and yes I've laughed at some of the threads - but visiting the foo doesn't help my work.

I visit the AW/AS fora (?) regularly because I find it useful and helpful. I spend some time trying to help others. It already take more of my time than it should. I find a little humour while I work helps brighten the day - sometimes I can't help myself if something I read sparks an amusing thought I like to share it.

I do recognise that its not good to take a thread off target - prehaps the issue is responding to an OT/aside without letting the thread get back on track.

Does anyone in the foo know how much beer fits in an adsense fridge? Or why it would be good to ask trannack this question?

Could we have a permanent shortcut link to the foo (like the library link) and maybe something we could include in our responses when we want to make an amusing observation in a response (eg make a smilely a hot link to a foo thread)

It interesting that a number of Adsensers have followed this thread to the WWCC - wonder how many of them looked at the other threads here.

Pengi

9:39 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Jimbeetle

For those folks who think the Foo forum is on the other side of the world and want a handy-dandy link to it, simply go to the system preferences page of your control panel. You can put any links you'd like in the custom code insert top and bottom fields.

Sounds partway there, but I can't get it to work for me.

I have learned how to put boxes round quotes though. I know someone who hasn't got a fridge yet who I can really wind up about this :) 'cos she doesn't know how to do it yet!

jimbeetle

10:05 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Go into control panel > system preferences. In the custom code insert fields (top or bottom), enter whatever links you'd like, e.g.:

<a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/foo/">Foo</a>

You can put a whole nav to different WebmasterWorld fora in there.

Note that the bottom field appears under the footer when you view your page.

Etonian

10:09 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just go to Control Panel - System Preferences - and then put this into Custom Code Insert Top, or Custom Code Insert Bottom:

<a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/foo/"><b>Foo</b></a>

Repeat as required for links to other sub-forums. Very handy tip, I'm pleased that jimbeetle mentioned it.

Edit: haha, jimbeetle beat me to it.

[edited by: Etonian at 10:10 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2006]

Webwork

10:40 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Adsense is possibly one of the biggest forums on WW

Egads! Adsense is "the biggest" only because it's the most obsessive-compulsive gaggle of geese on the WebmasterWorld planet . . just slightly more anal than the world of domainers. ;-P

Spread this illness to other fora? Please, quarantine this illness before it spreads!

Either that or next we'll see:

"My javascript is running a little slow this morning! How about yours?"

"Unfair! I just got banned from another forum for invalid comments!"

"Hey! My content production is up 3 words a minute today! How about yours?"

"Monday is going to be a holiday in the U.S. Does this mean my reciprocal link requests will be down?"

Back! Back! Back into your Adsense forum! I don't have time for this! I have to go check my stats!

Car_Guy

11:14 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can we tell lawyer jokes here?

Webwork

11:18 pm on Oct 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not unless we have a lawyer forum. ;-P

Khensu

12:24 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What do you call 500 MFAs at the bottom of the ocean?

just slightly more anal

yep, and we like it that way. Sure you want to hang with us?

Adsense is "the biggest"

So that would mean we also have the most paid subscriptions, so we should get what we want!-!-!
<stamps feet incessantly>

Yeah, yeah I know the tree house belongs to the Borgerators so the heck with that! -:o)

[edited by: Khensu at 12:39 am (utc) on Oct. 14, 2006]

Chapman

3:42 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can we tell lawyer jokes here?

The problem with lawyer jokes is that lawyers don't think they're funny and no one else thinks they're jokes!

Chapman

Webwork

4:26 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Q: How many Adsensers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: 42 [google.com].

reseller

7:06 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

I really like this thread. The more I read, the more I love it :-)

Maybe we can make new forum:

[webmasterworld.com...] ;-)

trannack

8:21 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps the question should be "how many moderators does it take to screw in a light-bulb"?

humblebeginnings

9:38 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I do have a working life outside Adsense.
And that is exactly the problem.

Physically I sit all day in an office with my real life colleagues.
But in my mind I am busy all day with plans and ideas to improve my online business. When I am in some boring meeting with my boss I am making notes about questions I will ask on the WW Adsense forum.
But to go back on topic again (although the entire point of this thread is the possibility of going off topic):

For many of us, our online business is our way of life.
The Adsense forum replaces meetings and conversations one would normally have in a workplace.

At the office we have a lunchroom. You can go there and have a chat with your colleagues about whatever you like. It doesn't need to be on topic. That lunchroom is our office-FOO.

I think the Adsense forum should have its FOO too.

humblebeginnings

10:00 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Alright then:

A Muslim, a Hindu and an WW-moderator are walking in the desert.
They are looking for a place to spend the night.
Soon they encounter a farm with a furnished room with only 2 beds.
Next to the farm is an old shabby barn.

"Well OK then", the Muslim says. "You guys take the room, I will sleep in the barn".

But when the Hindu and the WW-moderator are about to close their eyes, the Muslim knocks on their door."

"I am very sorry my friends", he says. "There appears to be a pig in the barn. As a Muslim I can not sleep next to a pig. I politely ask if one of you is prepared to sleep in the barn".

"Well alright then", the Hindu says. "I will give you my bed, and I will sleep in the barn next to the pig".

So the muslim and the WW-moderator go to sleep in their comfortable beds. At least, that was the plan. Because when they are about to close their eyes, the Hindu is knocking on the door.

"I am very sorry my friends", he says. "There appears to be a cow in the barn. As a Hindu, I can not possibly sleep next to a cow. Dear WW-moderator, are you prepared to sleep in the barn?"

Well, we all know WW-moderators. But let's not get into details.
After a nasty debate and some mildly violent interaction the WW-moderator is going to the barn to sleep next to the pig and the cow.

So at last the Muslim and the Hindu are going to have a good night sleep in their comfortable beds. At least, that was the plan.

Because when they are about to close their eyes, there is a loud knocking on the door. It's the pig and the cow.

trannack

10:05 am on Oct 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And you question why we need our own foo!
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