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Me thinks there are server issues on Google's side and that PageRank will probably reappear shortly.
[edited by: pageoneresults at 5:21 pm (utc) on May 28, 2005]
if visible pr is gone that is me just getting one step closer to abandoning explorer alltogether :)
Larry and Sergey have made the transition to the dark side and now are sith lords..
I couldn't care a less about pr..
Let me re-phrase that for you...
Larry and Sergey couldn't care less
With a few billion in the bank would you? I wouldn't ;)
Me thinks that this is a pretty big glitch and we might wind up with a PageRank update because they're rerunning all the numbers. What else could possibly take so long?
Analytics will begin to play a larger role and other sources of information will need to be relied upon when initiating discussion or strategic partnerships, whether to take on a new client, determining if a site has been banned for instance.
But it's just a glitch, this has happened before.
Yes, I remember this happening before around the time of Florida.
Only just the words. The cottage industry would get an enormous boost if the PR display stays gone. Text link selling will at least double and probably much more than that. PR will continue to exist whether the toolbar shows it or not, and now every blog spamming twit will point to their thousands of backlinks and say "look at all my backlinks, I have high internal PR, buy links from me".
...but the impact of manipulating google's real PR would be lessened. Something I think Google would want to see, Particularly over the long term.
Some have figured out that a Re-write will alter the PR in some cases.
This alteration shows a higher PR than should be and is a math problem.
It also may play into the what is known as the 302 problem. Might be related.
Guess they will work it out.
Vincent G.
Information is the key to customer service
[edited by: ShunT at 7:17 pm (utc) on May 28, 2005]
I would have thought that if a decision had been made to remove PageRank then it would have been removed from the currently available version.
This page [google.com] still lists the benefits of seeing PageRank.
My money says it will come back.
even tried spittin on the keyboard.
thinking maybe it's just Google
(has fingers crossed)
ok ok
lemmie introduce myself
My name is Wes
I have known about WW for sometime now...just so happens I decided it was high time to register.
with 38 domains out there I stay pretty busy
(waves to everyone)
[edited by: speaks2all at 7:56 pm (utc) on May 28, 2005]
DMOZ and Y! directory will get a lot more attention from webmasters if PR stays awol.
Please don't add to this mess and give people the wrong information...
[toolbar.google.com...]
I would put some merit into the fact that the old pages promote pagerank and the new ones don't.
Features list has Pagerank bar: [google.com...]
Tour has Pagerank bar:
[toolbar.google.com...]
I think you've taken this a bit too far, sorry.
I don't see how you can say that. The impact of any manipulation in the past or the future is a very imprecise thing.
What we do know is that whatever ranking reasons people bought links, those still exist. Obviously there should be no reason at all for link buying to lessen... or actually, the only "lessening" impact is some people will throw up their arms and say "this is too hard for me to figure out, I give up, I'm not going to try to rank". That group will be small though. Way more than counterbalancing that are all the mega-link sites with either PR0ed white bars or that weren't passing pagerank at all, who will now promote themselves as authorities and get in the game.
The bottom line is high quality links matter. If one way to judge value of links disappears, it just means more imprecise guessing will occur, volume of demand will go up, prices will go up, etc. It's inevitable.
If there are ten envelopes holding money in a hat, and you can pay $10 for any enevelope, and if they are all labeled with the amounts inside, you would buy one labeled with more than $10. If however none of them are labeled, to get the value in the envelopes, you have to guess which are the best ones to buy based on whatever other criteria you can come up with. Not a great example, but the bottom line is a few high PR sites will be hurt, while tons of PR0 and middling PR sites can now get in the game.
If the PR display does go away, it is the birth of a large industry and the death of a small one.
In all honesty, the PR ranking had lost it merrit years back.
I just feel bad for the big timer PR sellers. Too much money was made with PR manipulation and such anyhow.
I watched big time link brokers spoof sites all day long, then 6 months later sell PR8 links for tons of dollars. It was fun while it lasted ;)
Then again, the PR has gone dead in the past so it may sprout back up.
Google Owns You!:)jk
KG
NOW what measure are we going to use to ensure we are not "linking into bad neighborhoods!" We try to follow all the rules to be a good little website, but G just KEEPS on changing them.
That way Google won't have to answer thousands of emails from websites asking why their Pagerank no longer shows and why good sites have their search positions gone... and the shareholders won't realise that Google has lost its ability to rank sites like they used to.
Are they covering up for their own mess... hiding the mess under the carpet i wonder?
Googles bright engineers
I wonder if they're going to the conference :)
