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GoogleGuy

8:24 am on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

wellzy

12:57 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would just check a couple queries on 64.x.x.x, see if you like it, and then go spend some quality time with your family, your pets, your GameCube/PS2/XBox, or a favorite book. -GG

Guess I'm off to fire up the Gamecube and play my new MOH game. Quick question before I do. Does anybody have a dance tool with the new IP's in it. The current one I use has all the old datacenters. Be nice to use one with the 64 results in it to compare.

wine_guru

1:10 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just accessed 64.233.161.99 from Uk and it's showing results dated 13/02. Not for everything, but certainly for our site when we searched under certain keywords.

BUT, when you try the .co.uk version it shows results that look same as those prior to the update.

BrewCrue

1:52 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Im using dp to track my google keywords and I can say that google's api server is with 64.

Brew

Ledfish

2:07 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Something kinda interesting

I have noticed that my overall traffic is down a bit. There might be other factors for that than just this algo change.

However, looking at 64, we rank much better on many of our money phrases and of course it is way to early to speculate on how revenue will be effected, but my guess is that our traffic will decrease slightly, but sales will go up because it will be more relevant traffic.

GG, thanks for stopping in last night and clearing up the matter about 64 and 216. Also may I suggest you update your resume under your G work experience to include. "Responsible for holding the hands of millions of webmasters worldwide." It might fall in the requirement for worldwide communication skills.

[edited by: Ledfish at 2:07 pm (utc) on Feb. 15, 2004]

vnsampat

2:07 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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still seeing 216 results in India. Not seen 64 at all so far.

Hardwood Guy

2:37 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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64.x.x.x came up in Florida, but past experience tells me not to be optimistic reagardless of what has been said.

andy_boyd

3:45 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wine_guru, also seeing results dated as 13th Feb on 64.233.161.99.

lgn1

3:51 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Im so glad I did not waste very much time on worry about Google, after our results tanked in Mid November,
and instead gone out and got some good replacement
traffic. Now that things have returned to normal, it
will be nice to have that extra google traffic.

For my industry, the Brandy results look just like
the pre-Florida results, so maybe this was a rollback.
There was not much spamming in my industry, so maybe
the results are PreFlordia with some tweeks.

wine_guru

3:55 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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... and what's more, if you use some keyword tracking site (don't think I'm alllowed to mention which am I?) that uses a Google API key to tack your keywords, it shows marked improvements in our position compared to what we are *currently* seeing online at google.co.uk.

I'm a complete novice at this, but doesn't that suggest, if it uses a key generated by Google, that there may be more to come on on this and that there is some sort of time-lag between what we are currently seeing and what might arrive. Just like GG said in his earlier post - it might take a few days to arrive at what they intend.

So, I think nothing more to do than keep fingers crossed, waddle off to the cellar and find something tasty to go with Sunday nights dinner :) And hope that in next few days the results from 64.**** come to pass!

Jakpot

4:48 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm just going to wait and see what next few days bring

Essex_boy

5:13 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Have the vast majority of sites returned?

AthlonInside

5:30 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> I'm just going to wait and see what next few days bring

ME TOO!

frances

5:40 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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New results are not pre florida with some tweaks. Lots of pre florida sites arnt there. Lots of post-florida results still are there.

More like a mixture.

makemetop

6:12 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



>Have the vast majority of sites returned?

Not for me, but, I would say that two things have happened:

a) The PR requirement to be seen as an authority site sems to have been reduced - so more sites with a lower PR than previously are reviewed in the secondary semantic parsing.

b) The number of semantic terms subjected to a secondary algo have been reduced slightly.

I have sites which are in highly competitive areas that were zapped by what appeared to be the OOP algo post Florida now re-appear with no changes having been done. I have sites that Austin zapped on certain terms, returning for some terms but not for others that got zapped at the same time. I have a lot of other sites that have not been affected at all over the currency of this whole saga to date - optimised in exactly the same way.

It all depends on the market areas you are in.

I can still show many examples where searches are illogical if not down-right irrelevant. I still see sub-domain spam and I still see directories/affiliate PPC engines dominating certain markets. However the number of relevant sites returned has risen in many markets - but certainly not all have benefited to the same extent - and I deal with a lot of them!

So, I must agree, this is not pre-Florida with tweaks, this is post-Austin with a roll-back of certain trigger points.

All IMO, of course :)

Hissingsid

6:52 pm on Feb 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Makemetop said
a) The PR requirement to be seen as an authority site sems to have been reduced - so more sites with a lower PR than previously are reviewed in the secondary semantic parsing.

You might have something there. My site is very focused on a UK only (micro) niche market. Organic links from high PR sites are hard to come by for specialists in this kind of market. If I was targetting a US market I guess my PR could easily be 2 clicks higher. If PR was part of the reason that smaller market (national focus) sites got dropped I hope that someone at Googleplex keeps that at the front of their mind next time they impose a change.

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Best wishes

Sid

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:38 pm (utc) on Feb. 15, 2004]
[edit reason] we aren't doing specific keywords. [/edit]

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