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Update Austin - January 24, 2004

on DC: 216.239.37.99

         

paulk

5:22 am on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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DC: [216.239.37.99...] Major Shuffle, looking worse then ever, results look very bad, anyone seeing this?

drewls

6:57 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it's live. It's been on and off www. for a few days now. That doesn't mean it's a real update, but it's very likely that it is.

Brett_Tabke

6:59 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is zero change in the top 100 referrers for WebmasterWorld.

c1bernaught

7:01 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Looks more relevent to me....

caryl

7:05 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have found that pinging the different urls is resulting in 5 different the IPs. The 5 IPs are
216.239.37.147
216.239.37.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.37.104 (used to be cache for va)
216.239.41.99

That is to say that if I ping www.google.nl 5 different times I get any of the 5 listed above. Seems to be a random rotation. This holds true for be,de,fr,ch,at, and www. (I did not go any further.)

These IPs are all showing the "new" results. All but 216.239.37.104 traditionally have been "international" servers. IP 216.239.37.104 used to be the cache server for www-va.google.com. It is also showing the "worst-new" results IMHO:)

I have just gone through all of the other "US" servers (that I know of)and they are mostly stable at this time and showing familiar results.

What is real unusual is WWW pulling in results from the traditionally "international" servers as it is doing today.

Dayo_UK

7:11 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)



I am bit confused by the posters who are saying it has been live for a few days now.

If that was the case I would have seen a change in the amount of visitors Google and partners are sending me for a couple of sites.

I'm in the UK and have not seen these results once yet on www....

Perhaps it is testing - but whenever I have assumed testing before it always went live. :(

Oh well I am glad I at least spread the risk and not all sites will be damaged if this algo does go live.

PizdusInc

7:14 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed a significant increase in visitor traffic this past week... so the update may have been up for a few days and they are probably fine tuning it to make it exactly how they want it.

BigDave

7:15 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The change is live here, at least off and on.

So far my response is "yawn".

Some of my results are up, some are down. Saturday is a bad day for judging traffic results.

I tried a bunch of searches that I am interested in.

Non-commercial info - generally good.
Specific item shopping - very good.
Real estate - slightly better than post florida, but still a bit of a mess.
Travel, commercial - looks like directories still rule.
Travel, general - very good. Informational sites rule, with some good commercial sites in there.
Travel, informational - surprisingly not quite as good as the general travel results. I got a couple of spammy affiliate pages on searches for "cityname museum"

Conclusion - most users aren't going to notice any more than they noticed Florida.

Go60Guy

7:17 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems it migrates in and out on www. But it looks like a fait accompli on AOL.

More Traffic Please

7:28 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed that AOL is now showing the indent results (two pages from same site) just like Google has all along. Is this something new?

Tropical Island

7:32 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just gotta say that I'm happy I kept my adwords program for search terms that I was #1 or #2. This morning some listing were buried but our ad is still there.

From the results they are serving I would guess that the CTR will skyrocket.

markus007

7:37 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else seeing this show up on "their" www yet?

My logs show the new results, but i don't see them when going to www. From where i sit this is definately the new index.

my3cents

7:48 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed these results appearing on and off for the past 3 days on www too. Overall it's just a little shuffling on the keywords I watch.

Marcia

7:54 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AOL is changed but I haven't seen anything live at Google yet. And no backlink changes either.

Tropical Island

7:56 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Results are now showing back to yesterday after being new all day.

funandgames

8:17 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How come my sites never change position like everyone elses do? I seem to be missing all the action. Even on single and double keywords my positions never move by more than a few places. My #1 positions stay there as well. Bored SEO and shareware author here.

werty

8:41 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As far as "this has been live for a few days".

As far as I am concerned I have been doing numerous tests in the last week and have seen changes on the regular www. It has been cycling between about 5 data centers, as far as I can tell, but these Austin results I have only seen today.

To me Austin is new, and I see it across AOL and it is now coming into the main www every once in a while.

Brett_Tabke

8:42 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Give me an ip where I can see these rumored changes?

nileshkurhade

8:49 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sure the SERPs are jumping from old to new in VA state area

markus007

8:51 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Guys check out www2 and www3 they are showing up on live every now and then. Where the heck are they getting their results from?

claus

8:57 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Am i the only one that see different serps on these two:

[216.239.33.99...]
[216.239.37.99...]

(don't know if it's significant though)

Brett_Tabke

8:59 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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please reread my comments up the thread.
I shall be brief and blunt - we don't care if your site went up or down - we care if this is going live and how to find it. You want to broadcast your opinion to the www about google - get a blog and knock yourself out. We are done with these long bs threads about god, the universe, your childhood and your current feelings about Google and how it affects your day to day life. That's another and another place. This one is about the update.

Thanks claus - I can finally see some difference.

lasko

8:59 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Give me an ip where I can see these rumored changes?

I would like to see the IP too, so far I have not seen any changes on the main www, www2 or www3.

Until we see changes on the above 3 www I would take it all with a pinch of salt even if results appear on AOL and Netscape.

MarkHutch

9:08 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is tougher than it use to be. I don't see new results except on -dc. Isn't it possible that some people will see -dc results when they search AOL and Netscape, while others don't see the same thing via those services?

europeforvisitors

9:18 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)



I'm seeing the new results consistently on www, about three hours after I first saw this thread, checked, and noticed the new results.

(I'm in the American Midwest, if that's of any relevance.)

lasko

9:21 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok I am convinced its changing but very different

I do [google.com...] without the www
which produces new results

however they are far different
to those new results reporting from [216.239.37.99...]

Plus [google.com...] is different to the old results.

When I ping [google.com...] i get the IP address 216.239.37.99 but what is strange is the results are different for when I go to [216.239.37.99...]

Hope you understand what I mean.

The confusion is with in the DNS!

Brett I think we are looking at the first stages of an update but its far too early for anyone to start judging the quality of the results.

werty

9:21 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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[216.239.37.147...]
[216.239.37.99...]

showing me different results from
[216.239.33.99...]

nileshkurhade

9:32 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now I am seeing the same old results. Even on the above 3 ips i get the same and old results.

rfgdxm1

9:35 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>we care if this is going live and how to find it.

I can't recall Google ever doing something like this, and then revert back. What I am questioning is whether what I see now is what the new index will be, or if this update still isn't fully cooked? As in perhaps other algo factors have yet to be tossed in.

lasko

9:40 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Their most likely will be further data to be added however are they testing or updating thats the question?

every time I go to [google.com...] it forwards me to an IP/DNS of #http://www.google.com those results are different to the ones when going direct to [google.com...]

Both of the top two results are different to the DC 216.239.37.99

Confused!

ADDED

Checking again and the results have gone back to normal!

I am checking these in Europe.

Chicago

9:45 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>I can't recall Google ever doing something like this, and then revert back.

Me either. Play around for a couple of hours on some of the aforemention IPs and you will surely see the *making of a new result-set for certain searches*.

Is all the data pulled in? Are all the filters applied? Is the soup ready to taste? The same questions we always ask.

The main differences we are seeing are in fact similarities to Florida, not so much from a semantics standpoint as an athoritative standpoint for certain result sets.

And again this logic is unevenly applied as there is clearly a bias for some phrases to trigger a result set that does not reward traditional *on-page SEO tactics*

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