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I have a text version of my site, it's been there for several months,
could google have penalized me for this?
[edited by: fashezee at 10:40 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2003]
How is this possible? How can compact mode vs. standard mode show completely different results from google.de datacenter? I've tried it over and over to make sure it wasn't just a one-time fluke.
I have serious doubts about this. However, as a veteran of many past dances, it has been my observation different factors, like anchor text, get folded in at different parts of the dance. For example, I was #1 some dances ago early on for one SERP. At the very end I fell to like #5. I concluded it had to be either PR and/or anchor text getting added in. I was #1 briefly because of excellent on page factors, but wasn't as good with the off page ones. Thus, if anchor text seems less important now, it may not be so at the end.
During the Dominic and Esmerelda updates, some people experienced lost index pages or unexplicable drops in the position of an index page for a particular keyword. Many (but not all) of these sites seemed to share the following characteristics:
1. relatively new (2 yrs or less)
2. optimized for the keyword(s) that for which they were either dropped or "penalized" for lack of a better word.
3. had decent (consistent with prior to the update) positions for other keywords (if not dropped from index)
For people that had index pages dropped for certain keywords, the situation tended to improve each week. Some people reported seeing their index page back after a week, others two weeks, others three weeks. Most were ok after a month. The lesson to be drawn here is be patient. However, if you were doing things G frowns upon, I'd be concerned.
No where to be seen on google.com
I guess that's the crux of it. What was good solid SEO only a few days ago may now be devalued. This devaluation, or mistake, or whatever, has caused many, many, very good pages have gone missing.
I agree that Google has made mistakes in the past and for the most part it's understandable. However, I do believe that an algorithm change is at work here and the timing could not have been much worse. With the mistakes in the past, if indeed we are seeing one now, wouldn't someone have learned from the mistake and simply planned this action for a less damaging time?
Your assertion that thousands and millions of pages, exhibiting some of the behaviors that have been outlined, are ranking well, does not explain the thousands and millions that are not. I would agree that there is no solid explanation at this point.... However, at least in my vertical, there is not a single top 10 page that has the KW twice in the Title, not one using the KW twice in the description, etc.. however 8 of the top 10 did exhibit these qualities before this update. I have seen this again and again.....
It may all be over at this point and what we see is what we get... on the other hand there may be more changes to come, I don't know. I do know the the timing and the results od this particular update are questionable....
but thought good work would pay some day...
that day is still far!
Google - I pity on you
BTW - Days back GoogleGuy asking abt analogy of God and Google? Now he must be prepared to post a new thread about Devil and Google.
And here goes the 1st Contri-
I'll tell my Kids "Beware of Google, it could take away your bread and butter for nuffin. and try to be Evil! so that you can fool it"
LOL
[edited by: wanna_learn at 10:50 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2003]
My Q is this: Have I diluted my main keywords by having so many pages on my site focusing on one product and that are basically duplicate?
Thanks!
try looking in the google directory in -va, for our site made a change in the URL of our Dmoz listing and the change is not in the www. but it is in -va
If you refer to commercial sites, for every site that goes down in the SERPs, one goes up. The site and #1 now and raking in big bucks ain't damaged.
Sometimes God punishes you for what you know not. Same with Google.
Sometimes God blesses you for reasons you cannot understand. Same with Google.
The blessing of God is the greatest blessing of all. Same with Google.
People practice black arts in order to thwart the will of God. In the end they are judged and punished. Same with Google (we hope).
Thanks!
Except God isn't after your money....
Been through the different datacentres no sign, although we did have a visit from directory.google.com & the right section.
Haven't quite worked that out, as we can't find it?
I agree that for every site that drops one comes up. No argument...
I question whether the best sites are rising and the worst falling. That is the intent right? I mean in theory the best, cleanest, most relevant, highest content sites should rise... while the spammy, doorway page, redirect sites should fall.... right?
I don't think that's happening...
Comparing Google with God? Hmm...
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"God is an iron," I said. "Did you know that?"
I turned to look at her and she was staring. She laughed experimentally, stopped when I failed to join in. "And I'm a pair of pants with a hole scorched through the ass?"
"If a person who indulges in gluttony is a glutton, and a person who commits a felony is a felon, then God is an iron. Or else He's the dumbest designer that ever lived."
-from "God Is An Iron", by Spider Robinson
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From a favorite, and very interesting, short story I really like. Now that I think about it, your comparison between God and Google is right. Google Is An Iron. And, burns a lot of webmasters. ;)
- so do i, it's not that long ago, but definitely before the declared update. That's why i personally didn't consider it to be part of the update at first, but then again, perhaps it is something that was just tried out on a smaller scale before.
So, sofar we have:
Reading the above, this does not sound like an update to me, it's more like a "tweak" - the long awaited spam filtering might finally be underway.
Not that any of the suffering webmasters are spammers, that's not what i mean. A filter that has not been there for half a year or so will have some unintended side effects once it's employed, so if it's that, then some fine-tuning will be needed.
/claus
only in last few days I have noticed Several sites appearing without Title, Description and there is No- Cache for them.
We called it slow Death...as 1st there is No Cache of index> then its out of SERP (still in index and have PR) > other pages behaves same > Finally the no. of pages indexed falls and eventually your site is outta Google.
Is this a new style of Penalising or what?
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Any response to message #617?
