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I see updated links on www
I don't.
I know that I'm looking for parked pages when I begin looking for stock trading. Looks like G did a thorough job this time.
The oddest thing about my sites is that all of my older sites (IE. Over 6 months ranking number 1 - 10 on G) are gone, but the site that I just put up roughly a month and a half ago is still ranking number 1 on a fairly competitive word.
Anyone else seeing this trend? I can't make any sense of it but it's a trend that I see.
I bet Google employees come here on occasion when they are stressed for a good laugh from reading all the conspiracy theories and comments from spastic webmasters.
How true this is. Every time Google updates we have tons of people complaining, and claiming lots of users / clients are complaining about the results. This never fails to make me laugh.
Will people stop making knee jerk reactions for christ sake. I have had plenty of bad and good updates on Google. But as long as your site uses good SEO techniques it will always bounce back.
mikeD said:
Totally agree with this poster, the results look just as good as normal. I took a bad hit when the dom update happened but you didnt hear me moaning. It all seems like sour grapes to me.I say:
he really needs to search on a few more searches and see what's really going on. I used altavista for the first time in about a year today because I simply couldn't find what i wanted on google. I was looking for a demo of a piece of software to open a file a client sent me. #1 was a hack/crack site #2 was a university site with one passing reference to it, #3 a gaming site mentioning the keyword in a different context and so on and so on. It was nice to see how altavista has changed since I last used it actually, and i found what i wanted.
It's not sour grapes and it's not that I think anyone from google will take any notice, i'm just saying what i see and i'd hate to see google go down the pan because i use it about 50 times a day.
I've heard this Google going down the pan comment for every update there has ever been
What has happened to Google?
My home page has just been dropped for some reason. Have they changed their algo yet again?
It is all well trying to fight the spammers, but when the complicated algos start to penalise the best sites then they have done something seriously wrong.
Google used to be the best search engine in the world...
But then so did Alta Vista once upon a time ...
Another one ,
Oh Mikey care to search my keywords? 1 thru 10 all message board spam.
thats for 4 fidfferent keywords.
Another one brings up a travel guide Hazardous household waste and cenus bureau.
Another brings up a guy that has 2 thru 6 of 4 different domains that are one page sites with maybe 4 or 5 sentences on them and 11 keywords at the bottom spammed and all linked to all of his domains back and forth.
"the results look just as good as normal"
Way off bro
- agreed
no..we never hear from you!
Miami Beach Real Estate
1 South Beach Magazine
2 Boyton Beach Real Estate?!?!?
etc. etc.
Many Many Many other similar results in key phrases across the board, some I agree arn't bad, but enough are that something needs to be changed
It just seems that there is always someone complaining about something every update.
Note that #4 and #9 don't look like the rest, except #5 and#10. Of course i should have done the test using one datacenter only, but it's not all that important to me at this stage.... still a lot can change.
It would be nice to see the same test for a page that do have the two keywords in the URL. Anyone?
/claus
[edited by: claus at 8:49 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2003]
site.com/keyword-keyword.html
or
site.com/keyword_keyword.com
It would be interesting to see that responce as Site Pro News, just released an article a few days before the Florida Update telling webmasters to use keyword-keyword.html.
If I missed this earlier - oops - this thread is pretty long.
The oddest thing about my sites is that all of my older sites (IE. Over 6 months ranking number 1 - 10 on G) are gone, but the site that I just put up roughly a month and a half ago is still ranking number 1 on a fairly competitive word.Anyone else seeing this trend? I can't make any sense of it but it's a trend that I see.
Perhaps the inconsistancy with behaviour could be due to penalties being applied by programs that work their way through the sites in the Google database. There are a lot of them so it may be an incomplete process.
>Overture numbers for the term are huge, but the site is simply a parked domain.
I know we the mods don't like to discuss specific examples, and if they feel so in this case edit the search term. This is a legit result. Check archive.org. This site used to have relevant content, and on Alltheweb has tons of the right backlinks. This is a perfect example of how lots of backlinks with the right anchor text can raise a site to #1. Looks to me like someone bought the domain, and has put up a holding page. However, off page content dominates for Google rankings. I could get a site about Ecuadorian slugs to rank #1 for "porn" with enough backlinks with "porn" as the anchor text.
Is it because of over-optimization? Our index and all important keywords got wiped just one day after we launched a new site we worked on for a year. It is quite a pain to see so much work lost. The site is good, large, with a few strong backward links, an original with no duplicate content.
It seems that our penalty was over-optimization - did we repeat our keywords too often? Is it proper to be deleted just for this reason? It is a paranoia, where to see the limits of what google likes and what not.
Well, I checked all my keyword/keyphrases and the results have been very boring. Almost no changes in positions - for my site and for others'. Since these are non-commercial categories, I attribute this to lack of spam.
I have two new sites competing in a brand name category (8 million results). Still have (almost) no links therefore am placed very lowly (150-200). There too the positions are virtually unchanged. Checked other sites and the conclusions are same.
To me this means that probably the algorithms has remained same and only the new spam filters are being applied affecting mostly the spammy commercial categories.
I also have a site that is would definatly be considered "over optimized" with urls like:
www.KW1-KW2/Kw3-Kw4.html and it hasn't moved an inch.
So that doesn't really apply to my sites at least. Also the idea that google could penalize you for using a descriptive H1 tag and descriptive Title tag is obsurd - thats just good practice. It just makes sense that you would describe your page with the keywords that relate to the topic.
What has happened to Google?
My home page has just been dropped for some reason. Have they changed their algo yet again?
It is all well trying to fight the spammers, but when the complicated algos start to penalise the best sites then they have done something seriously wrong.
Google used to be the best search engine in the world...
But then so did Alta Vista once upon a time ...
I think its time this thread should be blocked.
Too much speculation, serious dicussion finished along time ago.
Can we put an end to this please.
Good time to unveil a search engine that has relevant search results.
Backlinks are updated on the main server. It is fluxing though. Results only stayed about 10 minutes before it reverted back.
Ted
Remember the "weapons of mass destruction" thing? Well on all the datacenters that webpage is still there. They have "weapons of mass destruction" In their Title, H1 tags and a density of over 4% for the keywords "weapons of mass destruction"
This is clearly a webpage that has spammed google to get the top results for that search term and they're still there! If google was really trying to filter over-optimization and anchor text then why wouldnt they get rid of this result? It's a pretty famous webpage known for cheating google. Why isn't it gone from the search results? Why would they remove other websites like mine and yours for over-optimization and not this one?
Any ideas?
