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P.S. I won't be posting as often (gotta work, ya know :), but I will be checking this post and chiming in when there's something I can add.
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Or is allinanchor factored in, and just the fact that www.mydomain.com is not listed at all in allintitle is playing havoc with my position?
I just share what I see, hoping we can try to get a feel for this new algo. I know it's still early, but I can't seem to not look at it.....Google Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder :(
What would happen? They would wind up showing the #1 search engine on page 3 for search engine. :)
Imagine if the whole secret sauce turns out to be random. Guess I'll just need to add about thirty more sites then!
The random element is such that throughout an update cycle, the SERPs stay the same. One possible way of implementing this is that every update cycle, sites are assigned a random number of "bonus algo points." A site that get a high number of these in a given month will do much better than usual or expected. The maximum number of bonus points a site can get isn't so large that a site that would be #200 gets to be #1 some months. However, sites usually buried on the bottom of page 2 might hit #1 for a month.
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I might stop offering SEO for a few months because I feel like I can't offer any kind of useful service that people couldn't do themselves by sheer dumb luck!
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Maybe that's what Google wants. After all, how does it look for a company thinking of going public when their flagship product is so easily manipulated by even the newest of persons learning SEO?
They after all have spawned an industry where every one and their uncle have become SEO experts. If the crown jewel is so easily manipulated, that crown jewel will not remain shiny for long!
"I think I really googled that multiple choice test. I should have stopped drinking and started studying last night."
"Did you shuffle that deck?" "Yeah, it's googled pretty good."
"I'm afraid the prognosis for your brain cancer is not good. Your MRS scan looks totally googled."
The argument that Google is broken because it comes up #20 for search engine, IMO, doesn't fly
Is it anything less than clear to people in here that the average user would *want and expect the biggest, most popular SE* to come up in position #1 when doing a search on "search engine"? As a consumer, I expect that searching on "search engine" should lead off with the big kahuna of SE's...then give me other interesting, but perhaps less popular, or more electic, results...*not the other way around.*
Who has the time and patience for that? Not the average consumer, I assure you! For the average Joe, Time is at a premium guys, and let's face it, the average Joe likes to work top down, not eclectic/bottom up. That was the Web *before* Google came along...
If you want a SE that gives you unusual or "interesting" results, try Ask. If you want to get to the point fast and get the information you want, you should be able to rely on Google. If not, it's only a matter of time, baby...
Is www2 and www3 showing this new update results? I hadn't been anywhere until just this moment.
Hopefully Google starts firing people because of this mess.
<edit>and i finally get a little bit of green in my bar</edit>
[edited by: whiterabbit at 2:47 am (utc) on June 18, 2003]
Looks like lost index pages are starting to come back in. Yesterday I noticed my site index page was in Yahoo but not Google and thought it might be everflux, but all results seemed newer not just mine so I kept my hopes up. Today it's on www-fi along wth other new pages and seems to be spreading, so it shoudl be there to stay.
I've got to ask this. There's a site, no.1 for a 2-word keyword phrase with 100 or so links, beating a site which has 15000 links and the two-word phrase as their domain name. The standard answer is, "it's the quality of the links that count", but I checked them all and he's got one PR7 link, a couple of PR6's and the rest. How do these few sites with neither much content nor many high PR links beat huge sites like this?
Cheers,
Jeremy
Just noticed my site popped back in for a solid term.
Hope it sticks!
Definitely alot of action. It's fun watching the hyperactivity on this board (if you can keep up with the thread)
If all this sticks, it looks like Google really may have provided us with more relevant results WITHOUT punishing SEO work as so many suspected with things such as the absurd semi-penalty theory.
Alas, index.html has returned to to the SERPS as of a few minutes ago(let's hope it stays that way!). I have to say I am feeling a lot better about the new process.
Google should return google as the #1 search engine. It's normal. That it doesn't suggests that either the calcs are not working right, or are working too well and Google isn't as well linked as some of the other SEs.
As for expired DMOZ / Yahoo domains, I know people who continue to open and run new businesses based on this model, and there are no shortage of people lining up to buy the domains to boost PR. I don't see any notable improvement so far (and have reported 5 different site / site combinations for this in the NEW index (www-fi)
Alex
Just noticed my site popped back in for a solid term.
"term" is the key word. It's coming in slow; not all of the phrases I tried are fixed yet. If this sticks, it's the best news I've had in 2 months.
i was just about to disagree with you, but just to be sure, i went to check my term. i've been checking since the dance started (obsessively), and all day today, i have seen the same results in both -fi and -dc, but everything else was different. Now, all of a sudden, my site is gone from ALL the datacenters - including -fi. I just want to cry.
Doing allinanchor searches that were lost a couple days ago, all of a sudden now show me where I should be.
It's as if my data was sitting somewhere off the datacenters and was just now brought back in.
All I can say is things are starting to look up:)
I hope this trend continues!
Something strange is going on.
Doing allinanchor searches that were lost a couple days ago, all of a sudden now show me where I should be.It's as if my data was sitting somewhere off the datacenters and was just now brought back in.
All I can say is things are starting to look up
