UPDATE! Google Feb/March 2003 UPDATE 2

part 2

[creative craig]

continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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Across 4 sites seen major jumps in ranking for me in all of them :)

RDF dump done its job for me as well :)

Craig

[customdy]

Is is possible that it has not found me yet?

[EquityMind]

derekwit:

Do you have a text link sitemap that links to all pertinent pages of your site?

[Pegasus]

I checked www3, and checked my backlinks, and it's increased from 252 to 324 :)

I then checked my ranking for various keywords, checking the page I was on before, then gradually checking forward, getting more and more excited, and then starting to realise that something was wrong, when I got to page 1 :)

I've just fluxed down about 5 pages for each of my main terms, and the list hasn't been updated yet.

Are there any servers where the rankings are up?

[jeremy goodrich]

From what I know, you will usually get different stuff from the different data centers, especially during the update when they are changing the most stuff around. :)

Give it a few days, then start looking around, work on your site, write more stuff, etc.

[giggle]

All these posts: It's On or Update!

Could we not agree (with his blessing) that GoogleGuy is allowed to create a post The update has started

Just an idea, I don't want to be a kill-joy, but each time I look at WebmasterWorld and see a new thread I have to check back-links and read the "oh no it isn't" posts.

My heart can't take this every month.

[jeremy goodrich]

Have you ever read Douglas Adams book, "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?

In it, there was a book, and on the cover, it said, in nice big & friendly letters these two words:

Don't Panic

I think that is the best course of action. :)

[gsx]

It makes little difference when the dance starts - it's all too late then anyway and there is nothing that any of us can do about it (except maybe GoogleGuy!)

The important time, is the crawl start for your particular site - get them new pages in and the corrections you have meant to do for weeks!

P.S. I know it's interesting when the dance starts, but I check before I come to this site, so I know I am not being mislead!

[AthlonInside]

Yeah same here, especially when this month (opss last month) update was delay for so long!

[ciml]

giggle, jeremy's advice is very sound. The best way to watch for the update reliably is the WebmasterWorld home page. I don't think there's ever been a false alarm linked from the home page, and when the update is confirmed the link goes up pretty quickly.

[LostJames]

Hello again,

I was told that it is most likely SERP on www2 & www3 will be the updated SERP once the dance is done.
[if so, I will be really lost :(]

My question is www still catches my current page where www2 & www3 catches my old page (oh,,, little over a month old).

It does not sound right that OLD page will show on UPDATED SERP.

Any thought on this?

p.s. BTW, I am trying to add a couple of keyword text to my index page right now - good or bad idea? (it does not needed, but it does not look that bad if I add a couple of keywords to the top of the page.)

LostJames

[ciml]

Welcome to the forum LostJames (now that you're here, we can safely say that you're found).

I strongly suspect that www is showing Fresh listings for your page instead of the old deep index. www2 and www3 show the most recent crawl, but presumably don't have the Fresh listings on top yet. For more information I suggest lazerzubb's Deepbot and Freshbot FAQ [webmasterworld.com], Marcia's Everflux thread [webmasterworld.com], my Google Fresh Listings [webmasterworld.com] thread, and GoogleGuy's Everflux Explanation [webmasterworld.com] (yes, we've discussed this quite a lot).

[getvisibleuk]

Looks like the new db has just passed to the .co.uk site although the effect of PR has not filtered through yet.

[derekwit]

EquityMind,
Yes I have two separate links to my site map on my home page. One in the upper most left portion and one in the lower right portion. Any other suggestions please let me know.

[papamaku]

here in the uk have just noticed that:

www-sj
and
www-dc

are now on 692 for yahoo backlinks, everything else on 642

this is my first dance watch, as i always miss it,

how long does it take for the rest to switch over?

[MHes]

Hi

We seem to be last in the UK. I suspect we will see the new index come and go during Monday and settle Tuesday evening.

[chrisandsarah]

Hi
I've noticed since yesterday that my homepage PR (which has been a 6 for the last few months) sometimes shows a 5. Sometimes if i go to another site, then back to my homepage, its back to a 6 again.
Can i expect a drop in PR when the current google update is finished? :(
and if so, what are the main causes of PR drop? number of inbound links has dwindled?

thanks again

[troels nybo nielsen]

The tendency seems to be, that if PR during the dance fluctuates between its "old" value and another one, then that other value will actually be the new one. But it's only a tendency. You cannot be sure before the dance has finished.

[mack]

I tend to agree with that.

I have seen it a few times and generaly the new value is the one that sticks.

[chris]

Hi, 2 of my website which are listed in dmoz months ago
those website didn't get cralwed all they have is
one page for each domain, does that mean that google
didn't crawl my site.

what i don't understand 1 of those website has been in dmoz for over 5 months & i have a couple of links from other website why didn't it get crawled.

thank you

[ciml]

chris, after being in the ODP for five months it seems odd not to be crawled yet. Although there have been RDF dump problems, Google should find the link from the DMoz.org page.

I suggest that you check the category's description page at dmoz.org. If the category page has PageRank and the description page is zero then maybe links from that page aren't counted (even though links to it are). This is very unusual, by the way.

Can you use the Google translate feature on your page? I don't know if this is a sound test, the translate servers may have quite different routing and DNS from the crawlers.

[askjoe]

I've been noticing google periodically brining the new index to www but it goes at quick as it comes. When is it going to finally update www for good?

[netguy]

I noticed it going back and forth as well... the good news is the links haven't been added yet on final results yet (from what is showing on www2) on several of mine, so looking forward to the end of the 'crunch'

[julinho]

Right now, only 1 of the 6 data centers has received the new index.
The data center is the newest one, www-cw.google.com, and is the one to which www2.google.com and www3.google.com are being routed.
This seems to be unusual (both the delay in transfering the new index to data centers and the fact that www2 and www3 are pointing to the same server). I wonder if there´s something behind it.
I think (and hope) that new links are already factored in the current www2 index. But, because of the reasons above, something different may still come up.

[nipear]

www-dc.google.com looks like it has the new index also.

[netguy]

www-dc and www-cw seem to be showing the new results (of www2), combined with the new inbound links as well.

[palmpal]

Hi All,

Hope everyone faired well in the latest update. My question is related to page rank. I had previously been a page rank 3. After the update, I could go to www.mysite.com and my page rank was still 3. Navigating to www.mysite.com/index.html I noticed the page rank was 4. I clicked on "backlinks" from the Google toolbar and much to my surprise, some of my links were showing. I just went to look a second time and my links no longer show up. Is this an indication that the update has not concluded?

By the way - thanks for all the advice! I included some seasonal pages for my product-related website before the last crawl and now these pages are included in the lastest update - with #1 and #2 search listings! Because the holidays are listed far enough in advance, I have a chance to "tweak" things before I expect increased traffic using these keywords.

[jonrichd]

Is is possible that you are seeing the 'old' results on one search and the 'new' results on the next?

www.google.com is alternating between the old and new results, depending on which datacenter you hit.

Congrats on your better listings.

[ciml]

Hi palmpal, I agree with jonrichd it's probably just part of the dance.

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<mod note>
A few more threads have found their way into the update thread. It makes things easier for people wanting to compare notes, and also for people who aren't specifically interested in this month's changes to find the other types of threads. For those of us feeling the need to help people out with problems, the unanswered messages [webmasterworld.com] list beckons.

[AthlonInside]

Maybe I still don't know how the updates works but I have been waiting for 2 days to see the update happen to www.google.com but it still remain the same! But www2 and www3 has been updated 2 days ago!

Actually how updates works?

[Pegasus]

I was kinda wondering that too.

I'm keen to "harvest" some new visitors. :)