Adsense - How much do you earn?

[tonygore]

Accoding to Nodaclu, we ARE now allowed to disclose our gross earnings but not CTR and other stats. At last some much needed inspiration... who wants to go first?

How much did you earn through Adsense in the last 12 months?

[Zygoot]

>I know I've skipped to the end of this thread to make this comment/request about links to other people's "profitable pages" - and it may have been asked before - but I thought I'd ask it anyway.

The fear of extra competition and rippers. It would be tempting to steal the idea of a site that makes thousands a month.

[shafaki]

Don't worry send2paul, it has NEVER been asked before. Not in this thread and not in any other thread. The simple reason is that it is against the the guidelines of this forum.

Yeh sure, giving you links to highly profitable site is "good" for YOU, but not for them, the site owners. Picture this: you have a web site in a highly lucrative niche that you've discovered, you make 50K or more per month. Would you tell all the others what your web site is?

I believe you get the picture now. As for myself, I got around $20 in over 200 days of AdSense, so no problem at all showing you my web site :D

Ashraf
Egypt

[send2paul]

Zygot & Ashraf - thanks for those replies.

Although there has been a lot of interesting posts in this thread, (some people sharing their thoeries and tactics etc), and LOTS of people saying how successful they've been, it almost seems a neglible activity if you can't see the website they are talking about.

But if that's the rules - then them's the rules.... it's still a great thread, though!

[MaxRoy]

Hi guys,

I am new here!

This year (since Jan 2005) I earned an average of 27$/day from AdSense.

WEBSITE STATS :
around 20 000 visitors/day
around 160 000 page viewed/day

GOOGLE ADSENSE STATS
10/31/03Earnings...128.00
11/30/03Earnings...186.63
12/31/03Earnings...188.74
1/31/04Earnings...221.31
2/29/04Earnings...198.03
3/31/04Earnings...258.00
4/30/04Earnings...327.54
5/31/04Earnings...316.16
6/30/04Earnings...301.48
7/31/04Earnings...299.78
8/31/04Earnings...302.76
9/30/04Earnings...500.91
10/31/04Earnings...495.96
11/30/04Earnings...631.12
12/31/04Earnings...718.93
1/31/05Earnings...658.87
2/28/05Earnings...772.25
3/31/05Earnings...1,019.28

Facts i've come to realize:
1. Forum is bad for AdSense
2. Too much ads is negative for visitors (members)

2005 objectives:

Increase CTR in the BANDS/ARTISTS pages , CD pages get 1.1% of CTR and BANDS/ARTISTS get 0.4%.

Find a solution to finally get some clicks in the FORUM.

If you think you can help, pm me!

Thanks

[edited by: MaxRoy at 3:08 pm (utc) on April 17, 2005]

[blaggard]

I would edit your post as it is against the terms of this site and adsense last I checked.

[trader]

Somewhat weary of so many posts in numerous threads warning others to not violate a TOS. Why do so many members here want to be an unpaid policeman each and every time someone wants to voluntarily reveal information?

I am sure most all know or should know the TOS so if they want to voluntarily reveal extra details it would seem up to the Mods or G to police them (if needed), and not many members of this forum.

Perhaps some who do this do so because of all the secrecy which shrouds the program. If more revealed information there would be a lot less mystery with the program (though I am NOT inviting or asking others to do that, so please do not misunderstand).

[blaggard]

why not ask me why?

[panther]

This year (since Jan 2005) I earned an average of 27$/day from AdSense.

WEBSITE STATS :
around 20 000 visitors/day
around 160 000 page viewed/day

GOOGLE ADSENSE STATS
1/31/05Earnings...658.87
2/28/05Earnings...772.25
3/31/05Earnings...1,019.28

The four-figure monthly income from AdSense some said they are making is amazing, and I congratulate you. But it's difficult for me to identify with those figures. Once and a while it's nice to know how you're doing in the scheme of things.

As to the above stats, if I'm only averaging about 1500 visitors a day, and my income is close to the same amount, I guess I'm doing okay, no?

thanks, gail

[oddsod]

gail, it's not a direct function of the number of visitors. But, of course, if you get a lot more visitors the chances are that your earnings will rise.

One Adsense account I have makes several thousand a month but there are several sites in that account and it gives Google a million or so ad impressions to make that money. An account of a client of mine makes the same money with less than 100K ad impressions (probably just double your traffic) but his site involves financial information that attracts very high paying ads.

[panther]

his site involves financial information that attracts very high paying ads.

Yes, I'm beginning to see that a lot has to do with the types of ads brought into a site and how much advertisers pay. Sometimes it gets a little frustrating to know that people with a lot less traffic and clicks, make significantly more. Still, I'm very pleased with my income.

[oddsod]

Sometimes it gets a little frustrating to know that people with a lot less traffic and clicks, make significantly more.

That's unproductive envy. Compare your earnings with your past and future earnings, not somebody else's.

[panther]

Compare your earnings with your past and future earnings, not somebody else's.

Sound advice. Doing that makes me smile. ;-)

btw, why can't I edit any of my posts, or automatically quote someone when I make a reply?

[oddsod]

You can edit your post for only a brief time after you've made it. Look to the left of your post and just under your user name.

How to quote etc is covered in the Help [webmasterworld.com]

[carminejg3]

we get about 250k unqiue 1 mill pageviews an month and range $25-$40 a day. in feb before changes we where getting $80-$120 day... recently looks like someones gotten greedy... and pays very low cpcs if you track channels you'll see things are paid at about .05 - .15 per click. Even on high click items...

come on yahoo publisher... I'm ready for a bit of change

[panther]

come on yahoo publisher

Forgive my ignorance, but what is yahoo publisher?

[panther]

we get about 250k unqiue 1 mill pageviews an month and range $25-$40 a day. in feb before changes we where getting $80-$120 day...

guess I can't really complain! You have about five times the unique visitors that I do.

[panther]

Thanks, oddsod. Now I see where I can edit a post. Better hurry!

How to quote etc is covered in the Help

I know the coding, I just wondered why we have to hand code. Makes it difficult, too, to respond directly to someone.

[carminejg3]

So I guess we aren't doing so well...

As will yahoo publisher...

yahoo is or is in the process of changing "overtune" to ad manager services or something like that.

publisher.yahoo.com

Which we all assume or are hoping that it's yahoo's, version of adsense. can't think they would let the rookie run away with a muli-billion dollar idea do we?

I think yahoo would be a lot more selective on the sites, where google tends to allow anyone with a heart beat and a webpage into the program. So those are the sites we believe make the most, since people are looking to click away.

[panther]

So I guess we aren't doing so well...

I think you're doing very well as to traffic; you're just in a field where is seems advertisers are not paying that much per click. Are you using anything other than AdSense, such as an affilate program? I just joined an affilate program in Jan. It's taking clicks away from AdSense but I'm actually making more money than if I got the same amount of Google clicks as before.

[bamamamma]

In my second year with G. Just one major site, lots of traffic - about 3 million page impressions a month.

Making anywhere from $150 to $230 a day.

Awesome.... but could do better...

[dutch_dude]

About $30 a day with 3000 visitors. We do have very large and short spikes in visitors, due to our subject. But EPM drops pretty much then and we do not get much higher than $100..

It is my observation however that after each spike the number of visitors stays a bit higher then before it and EPM slowly returns to normal (takes a few days), increasing our daily income.

With this rate of growth I expect to be at $60 a day in 6 months, would be nice :-)

[panther]

MaxRoy said:

>Facts i've come to realize:
>1. Forum is bad for AdSense
>2. Too much ads is negative for visitors

I'm curious about item 2. Why would a forum be bad for AdSense? thanks.

[carminejg3]

I think if you have too many ads, unless you have GREAT content people get angry.. My best performing text ad is a single link.

as with the forums..... its very difficult to get clicks in them...

I may even remove my ads from the forums. Unless someone has a method of improving clicks in them?

[frox]

Unless someone has a method of improving clicks in them?

Why don't you ask your users to click on them? That's what most of the people seem to do.

for the casual reader: I am just kidding, don't ask people to click on the ads, you'll get banned form Adsense!

[panther]

Hmmm, maybe I'll take the google adds off my forum, and put Amazon display ads up instead. Maybe that's a place graphics would work better, since a forum is primarily text. Any thoughts?

[ardent]

I had a leaderboard at the top of forum pages that got a negligible # of clicks. I moved Adsense to the left gutter and made it a vertical banner on short pages, skyscraper on longer pages. Now Adsense performs almost as well (in terms of CPC and CTR) on the forum as the main site.

I'd be curious to find out if this works for you. Please let us know if you try it.

[Americanfreak]

Well my site does not do as well as some of yours but it does ok. It seems to stay around $325-375 a month. I do think we could do allot better.

We get about 40-45k unique viewers per month and 65-70k return viewers per month.

700,000 plus pages per month and 5,000,000 plus hits per month.

We have one G ad on the left and one G ad on the right.

Seems like we get some where around 15,000 ad impress aday.

So far this month we've had 247,000 (or more) Pg Impress- 1387 clicks-.6%CTR and eCPM of .87

To me something is out of whack and I do not know what it is.

[humbads]

I run awstats on my website, so I can tell that fully 2/3 of the traffic to my site comes from Google. My site contains miscellaneous hobby and technical topics, for which I never intended to generate income from. Since August 2003, the range has been $50 to $300 per month.

Now think about it, if you make $50/month on a site, you might consider spending a day or two a month on improving your site. If you make $300/month, then you would be motivated to spend several weekends a month on your site. If you make $2000/month, then you might spend all your spare time on it. But how do you know if this Adsense income is steady?

As I said, my site traffic level is 66% dependent upon its ranking in Google. As it turns out, the Google index update a couple days ago caused my traffic (and earnings) to drop by about 75%. Therefore, I don't think it is wise to think about Adsense earnings in the "dollars per month" mindset. Instead, it is better to model it as a random variable.

The key question for ascertaining the reliability of this income source is what factors go into it and how much control do you have over them? Let's enumerate:

site content - controlled
ad layout - controlled
external links - uncontrolled
page rank - uncontrolled
seasonal effects - uncontrolled
special events - uncontrolled

Maybe you can think of other factors or split them a different way. In any case, the income level may be highly dependent on factors that are entirely out of your control.

Not that it can't be done, but to succeed here you must enter the publishing business. It seems to me that for serious-minded publishers, you'll have to model your business as a magazine or newspaper, i.e. develop high-quality, targeted content and cultivate a readership. That's the only way to reliable earnings. Otherwise, Adsense money is just funny, Monopoly money, even if you earned $1000 one month. Don't bet the farm on it and don't become a slave to the stat counter.

[frox]

I would add:
smart pricing - uncontrolled

[panther]

humbads, I think you summed it up completely. We had a discussion in another forum about determining the asking price if one were to sell their website. The dialog was quite interesting. Some of us reluctantly came to the conclusion that a site which generates income primarily from AdSense, no matter how much the income, has the least sales value since the Google that giveth can also taketh away.