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How much did you earn through Adsense in the last 12 months?
Wow. I mean, wow. Did you hire out all the content to be built, at first? You didn't sit there squirreling away at it for five years and then are off to the races now every day?
And sorry, I won't disclose, thanks to the change of TOS that says we can be kicked for complaining about AdSense or Google. Surely I've said something disparaging about them somewhere on this forum, and I don't want to give them any more leads as to who I am.
At least, not until Yahoo's program comes online. ;-)
We're in the smaller range, though, enough to get by on to focus our time on building more sites.
you know when a light bulb turns on in your head?
1. How did the light bulb get in your head?
2. Was it using 110VAC or 220VAC?
3. Who turned it on?
No need to give spacifics, just give us a hint, did you 302 hijack someone big?
I wish I would have put all the time and effort I've put into my music fan site, into a higher paying niche.
But I do enjoy my website.
Anyone else feeling the same sentiments after hearing these 10k a day people and stuff? :)
I'm not saying that they're not telling the truth however there are not that many of them, it's as simple as that.
The maths will give you the answer.
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The world's most popular internet search engine achieved net profits of $204.1m (£108m) in the three months to 31 December.
Way ahead of market expectations, this compares to the $27.3m profits the company made a year earlier.
Total fourth quarter turnover jumped to $1.03bn from $512.2m, again beating analysts' estimates.
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So, allowing for a $100 mil costs etc. G returned $700 million to Adsense etc?
$233 mil per month...hmmm...44,135 cheques issued last month = $5,295 per cheque average.
Minimum cheque pay out = $100
Of course we do not know Google's earnings this quarter so my figures are not anywhere near correct however it does give you a much more balanced view of what may be happening.
We already know the wide range of earnings from here so if you're happy with your site, great, keep at it, there's more to life than money as well all know far too well.
I'm still small fry, I have a few friends who do a million a month from thier sites.
These sites, are behind the scope of this conversations,corporations which are not the norm, I thought we were asked about the so called 'average' adsense guy. My bad?
Sure you can make $20+ a month, possible lots more, I must add that some of us pay out a large percentage of it in in advertising taxes and investment, so it is not all clear profit.
I've been working on my site fairly every day for 5 years. My site is listed in the Yahoo and Dmoz directories and with roughly 20 thousand regular monthly visitors, my site records in excess of a million hits/month and for that you need a dedicated server. Truly, you need a dedi for anything over 250,000 hits/month, something which most sites simply don't even come close to.
The secret is there is no secret. It takes years to get popular, all those sites getting a TON of hits have either been online for a long, long time, OR they are spending a fortune on advertising, per click.
The other thing puzzles me is I could see it if the sites were about something popular like porn or warez, so how come we see it from the owners of 'I_would_sell_viagra_but_no_its_a_honest_travel_site.com'
talk about making several hundred, then came the few thousands, but of course this is like fishing and the guy who boasts the largest fish wins, so soon came the folk talk about tens of thousands of dollars/month, per site ... As if!
Don't even think about telling me everyone here has a dedi or that most sites even get enough traffic in the first place. Fact is most sites are virtual and most sites hardly get 10,000 hits/month ... Hell, people brag like crazy when they reach 100,000 hits/month, and there simply are not that many of them. Fact again confirmed by reviewing statistics for those who make them public... And for those who don't, the folk who do speak for you.
Now someone explain to me how a site pulling around 10 - 50k data requests/month, which translates into a few hundred monthly visitors, manages to pull in almost a dollar per visitor via adsense. That's just ludicrous, considering I can get a TON of traffic while paying meager advertising fees far below a dollar per click, and these fees are cut several times before the affiliate receives their share.
Could it be the guys posted the last few messages are per chance top-of-web folk, the few who exist miraculously converged on this singular post to divulge their fantastic earnings? Somehow, I doubt it.
Now I do know one guy owns a million hits/month site similar to mine and pulls 2000 dollars per month from his program but then the guy also spends 3000 dollars per month in advertising and as posted earlier, suddenly it's not so impressive anymore. Moreover, what's the use of this? Alas it's his game and his money, but it's not going anywhere fast or slow as usually is the case, thou at least he's honest.
As for me, I spend 2 to 3 dollars/month on 1-cent/click advertising (which converts into 200-300 visitors), while most my traffic comes from the favorites due to content and large directory listings, and the fact that more than a few pages come up as a first-page result on google, and with all this my site averages 30 to 60 dollars/month from adsense. Adsense makes up almost half the site's income, the other half comes from selling my own paid listings while a small percent (less than 5 percent) comes from sponsor/affiliate links.
So not only do I find most of the claims unbelievable, but it frustrates me to no end as this is the kind of thing disappoints folk coming to the web, making them believe this is all about free, easy riches.
Earning money on the Web takes a LOT of work, time, and if you have some money, then that helps too! It took me a year to get listed on Yahoo and I paid for that listing, then it took two years to get listed on Dmoz, and it's taken 5 years to build 400-some pages of content occupying several gigs of space on the server's hard-drive. Hell most folk can't even code straight, they use some wysiwyg program and are boggled by the use of server-based functions such as crontabs and sql crap (which, admittedly, IS boggling, lol), all the while requiring a web-based interface such as Cpanel, Ensim, or Plesk to help ease the transition.
No doubt Google earns billions... per year. All these billions are NOT sent to their affiliates every month, only a small percentage of it is, and google's affiliates surely number in the 100,000's as well. So you take all their billions and divide it by 12 months, then you cut out what google keeps for themselves (so to speak), and you're left with a few million. Now you take these few million and you divide that into some 100,000's affiliates and suddenly you get what I get: A few dollars per month.
At least now it makes sense.
I wonder if I should clarify pagerank next ...
[edited by: topsites at 11:01 pm (utc) on Mar. 16, 2005]
My gross earnings for February: $21.35
I run a small, personal site with eclectic content laid out in an idiosyncratic, non-SEO approved format. I have about 300 pages of real content, about 75% of which carry AdSense.
I'm happy, but my expectations are low. Right now 100% of my webhosting bill and 25% of my Internet access bill are now paid for by ads, which is a cool subsidy for doing nothing but pasting some code into my pages.
At this rate I'm going to pull in $7k for this month in adsense (about $230/day) . Oh, and it's all sweet profit, except for $50 in server costs.
7000 adsense impressions on average per day distributed over 6 sites.
Believe it if you will - but the money is real and I can't care less to convince you otherwise :)
lastly, if you've been working on a site 5 years that gets a million pages per month and you've only managed to turn that into 125$ per month revenue, than you've been doing something seriously wrong
My question to all these big earners is do you all write / create your own content, do you pay other people to do so, do you actually have content?
W.
but im highly skeptical of your post as well. first off, the need for a dedicated server over 250k pageviews a month is just silly. i do fine on a shared server with about a million per month.
I'll echo that. I'm running just under 1.5 million PVs per month, and I've had no problems at all with a shared server at an industrial-strength hosting service. Mind you, I have a site that consists of static HTML pages, not a forum or a dynamic content site. (I seem to recall a friend's going to a dedicated server when his forum traffic reached 400,000 PVs per month.)
Your overwhelming verbosity made some very valid points
However...
and suddenly you get what I get: A few dollars per month.
If a few dollars per month is all AdSense paid I would've tossed it long ago.
As it was explained to me, which changed my outlook on marketing my site, it's not how much you make per click but how much you average per visitor. For instance if you get 10,000 visitors/day and average $0.05 per visitor that's $500/day.
Gives you a whole new perspective on how to market your web site. AdSense is just a portion of the overall picture, combined with direct advertising and affiliate programs all coming together to make a nice collection of checks every month.
You don't need to fleece a few for a lot, you need to fleece EVERYONE for a little :)
There are those who are the dedicated, out-and-out, gotta bust ma balls to earn every penny possible. Then there is the hobbiest who is quite (probably extremely) happy that Adsense pays all the bills.
Some e-commerce sites wondering why nothing quite works out and then others (myself included here) who built sites out of necessity/love and ended up earning more than they ever expected from it and now are looking at ways of leveraging it to do more!
Sure, I have no doubt that some are doing very well however that number is extremely small in comparison to the amount of publishers.
The sectors in which some publishers, even new ones like rfung:
7000 adsense impressions on average per day distributed over 6 sites.
...are very impressive. Has he been lucky? Is he going to tell us...? Not unless he's stupid!
Have you ever considered this?
As an Adsense publisher we are actually quite unique.
Realistically we are the first ever mass recipients of automated micro payments...
Ok, we whinge and whine when EPC goes down however at least if you keep adding content and promoting correctly you should (!) keep adding extra revenue.
Now we know what we always suspected:-) Some people are earning loads more than we do...has life changed? Nah!
I love my job/work/trade/lifetime employment and wouldn't change it for anything else:-)
I'd be more inclined at this point to spread around a bunch of shared servers than own my own headache, though this is beyond the scope of this topic/forum...
Realistically we are the first ever mass recipients of automated micro payments...
That's an interesting observation--especially to those of us who remember when "micropayments" were going to be the next big thing. :-)
June 04 - 37.00
July 04 - 20.00
Aug 04 - 25.00
Sep 04 - 44.00
Oct 04 - 37.00
Nov 04 - 21.80
Dec 04 - 29.00
Jan 05 - 67.00
Feb and Marc - 67.00
Directory website.
It looks like I'll close the day out at around 3700 impressions, and maybe $15.
This is mostly from two sites. One does 90% of the impressions and makes half the money, the other does 10% and makes the other half. The first one is a niche authority site that's been around for 8 years, and the other is just s generalized content site that's been around for two.
My focus on these two sites at the moment is to add content to broaden the niche on the first (it'd sell a lot of related higher dollar items, but the content doesn't target them yet), and add content to increase the traffic to the second...
At this rate I'm going to pull in $7k for this month in adsense (about $230/day) . Oh, and it's all sweet profit, except for $50 in server costs.7000 adsense impressions on average per day distributed over 6 sites.
That's so very close to my own situation.
topsites,
Nice post but I think you have a myopic view of how webmasters earn money.
And I find this statement -
I wonder if I should clarify pagerank next ...
- somewhat derogatory and arrogant. It's as if you are saying you are the only one who knows how this business works.
While I share your doubts on the declarations of these self appointed high rollers "with all the secrets," the sub-theme of your post shows me that you are also guilty of a bit of hubris.
Skepticism is healthy but keep an open mind to the fact that you may not have all the answers, yet.
This is why I am here at this fine forum. Although I am I at a nice $6800/month, (in AS income, not my total) I've hit a plateau and I can't seem to go to the next level = UPS club.
Has he been lucky? Is he going to tell us...? Not unless he's stupid!
FYI - I think I've been lucky. I don't do link exchanges, I have no clue where I am in the serps for the multiple keywords, and the higher powers know I didn't do anything this month to justify the increase in almost 80% from the previous month($130/day last month)....I was happy at $130/day, I'm ecstatic at $230.
now if someone explained pagerank to me...
Freedom: just curious to know how long you've been running your sites? Mine's been up since about November last year, and it's been slowly but surely picking up steam.
Like you, I don't even pay attention to rankings, serps, etc. I remember when I was excited about averaging $100/day. Now, $230/day represents a new lifestyle. Before I sold that one website, I was on my way to averaging $280-290/day.
I've survived and thrived when others get hit with algo changes, smart pricing, EPC drops, etc. I admit I've been lucky but also think I know a little something about AS making work for me.
Did you see how long it took for any of the UPS members to even post in this thread?
I think that's more of an aversion to a thousand sticky mails asking 10 thousand questions about how to get in the UPS club.
