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For this day (17 May), does it mean that they will pay for April 1-30 earnings, or for May (1-18) also?
Frox: "As a non-arbitrager, I value VERY much the information these guys are giving us, and I think trying to understand what is going on will help us "regular" publishers what will happen to Adsense and to our accounts in the next weeks. "
Most arbi players have no sympathy for "honest" publishers that moan & groan that they can't make $$'s from their sites.
I laugh every time I hear someone try and make out they're an "honest" publisher. Because others used a Google sanctioned method to turn a dollar, somehow that makes them "dishonest"? Gimme a break.
I don't like the word "honest" publisher in this context either and as arbitrageurs are expressing their disdain to any ethically motivated responses, here ia a very economically motivated, non ethical and non moral take on the issue:
Finally (if Googles solution proves successful) we may not have to waste our time patrolling our pages in pursuit of low paying advertisers. Finally we might be able use our our time more constructively to improve up our websites for our visitors and provide value to higher paying advertisers. Finally, we can reap the benefits of our labour without having our valuable traffic snatched by the arbitrageur who cannot raise his/her own. We might not make 10k per day, but we hope to continue making money from Adsense long after Arbitrageurs have become fossils and we have forgotten them.
[edited by: Scurramunga at 2:41 pm (utc) on May 21, 2007]
Finally (if Googles solution proves successful) we may not have to waste our time patrolling our pages in pursuit of low paying advertisers. Finally we might be able use our our time more constructively to improve up our websites for our visitors and provide value to higher paying advertisers.
Not to mention all the time we'll save by not participating in "MFA's are terrible" threads here on WW. :)
FarmBoy
Disclaimer: To repeat my earlier comment, I'll believe this massive shut down of arbitrage fueled MFA sites is real when I see it for myself.
Finally (if Googles solution proves successful) we may not have to waste our time patrolling our pages in pursuit of low paying advertisers.
Removing click arbitrageurs from the equation may ultimately benefit real publishers, but don't expect miracles. Just because you (and I'm using the generic "you" here) have good intentions and worthy content doesn't necessarily mean that clicks will convert for advertisers, or that the demand for clicks on "elbonian underwear fashion" or "blu-ray thumb drives" will exceed publishers' inventory for those keyphrases. If you've got a forum or a "free downloads" site for 10-year-old orphans, you may earn only a penny per click even if Google rounds up click arbitrageurs and ships them to Devil's Island.
Anything that improves advertiser confidence in the AdSense network is a good thing, but it isn't a panacea for every complaint about lousy earnings.
By the way, I'm not a fan of get-rich-quick schemes, but I agree that turning this thread into an MFA bashfest is likely to be counterproductive.
Sounds like a reasonable theory to me.
I know this was brought up earlier in the thread but I one of my biggest questions is there has got to be some type of automation going on to find these "business models"
It may be a very simple process that has been in the works for a few months. Have your Google computers make a list of all the URL's that appear in filters across AdSense sorted with the URL's that appear most often at the top, then have someone check those URL's to see if they need a future "we're saying goodbye" email.
FarmBoy
Repeat earlier disclaimer
Having said that, I emptied my filter list once I heard the rumors of Google booting the arbitrage/MFA folks. The effect was a good Saturday (but it seemed to be an overall good day for all sites, so I do not attribute this to the empty filter) and a really bad Sunday (which I do attribute to the empty filter list).
IF your filter is full of arbitrage/MFA URL's and
IF those arbitrage/MFA's sites disappear
Then emptying your filter after those sites have disappeared shouldn't have any effect on your earnings.
FarmBoy
Repeat earlier disclaimer
sounds very likely indeed
Over the weekend, eWhisper's blog pointed out that Google is just about to roll out a new feature to AdWords advertisers, wherein they will actually be able to see which sites in the Content Network provided clicks
Advertisers will also be able to pick the sites that get to run their contextual ads:
[webmasterworld.com...]
