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AdSense Disabling Arbitrage Accounts by June 1st

         

Freddy81

3:37 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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They told me my account will be disabled at 1st June, and also added that I'll receive payment for all outstanding earnings in accordance with the standard AdSense payment schedule.

For this day (17 May), does it mean that they will pay for April 1-30 earnings, or for May (1-18) also?

Play_Bach

6:38 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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> It worked well for them before and no longer does.

I think for many of us, it's the accumulated frustration of how long it took for this to happen. Watching the errosion of the AdSense brand, the exodus of advertisers from the content network and the plummeting price per click since joining AdSense in 2004 hasn't helped my blood pressure any.

disspy

9:10 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The fact is that a big cleanup is on the way. The question is what will happen with "hybrid" AdSense accounts, the guys who work with both regular and MFA sites using one and the same account?

However, I think regular publisher would profit from this cleanup and CPM could rise significantly after this.

content_adj

9:21 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Actually, i quit arbitration model in November 2006. I took this decision when the "no picture next to ads" rule was enforced. one of my top site was banned from adsense. I had some gut feeling that google will catch up with this nonsense sooner or later and I quit the model and lost a lot of revenue, ofcource. I havent got any 'u r fired' emails till today. I believe I wont.

The point I learned is :

Dont treat adsense as your primary earning source. It may become the primary source, but you dont treat it that way.

cheap domain name : $1.99
Scrapped content : few minutes
cheap adwords campaign : $0.03/click
getting banned from adsense: priceless

or is it? when u made enough already (like $70,000 p.m. for a year or so.)?

potentialgeek

11:17 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think regular publisher[s] would profit from this cleanup and CPM could rise significantly after this.

Maybe, maybe not. I predict the changes could be radically different from one site to another. Some sites will do much better; others will do far worse; while others won't see any appreciable difference.

Why? Once again it's inventory. Depending on your industry, market, and niche, if any, as well as traffic, Google may or may not be able to fill the void left by the departing arbit. inventory.

We don't know how many total arbit. accounts are being banned, and whether the remaining accounts will collectively have budgets high enough to run ads which fill the available ad space every day.

The sites which had tons of arbit. folks could see a huge drop in earnings, assuming the reason why the arbit webmasters dominated is because there were so few other honest businesses on the Content Network. The Adsensers will feel the rug pulled out from under them.

I personally don't see Advertisers rushing back to the Content Network. I don't think the main reason they left is because of other advertisers; I think it's because the publishers couldn't format their sites in a way that brought them conversions.

Furthermore, the loss of competition from arbit. webmasters has to lower the bidding, leading to lower earnings. Maybe not a lot less, but expect a drop, nevertheless.

I'm interested to see how or if this new development affects smart pricing. Based on the idea that Google's sp algo could assume few real conversions took place if many clicks are made on one ad unit. Obviously arbit sites led to multiple clicks (different ads) from the same ad unit or webpage, when the visitors realized a site was junk, hit the back button, and proceeded to try another Adsense ad link.

Remove all those bogus ads, then, by this new purge, and you could climb out of being under the smart pricing cloud. In the past I think arbiters have been partially responsible for getting us smart priced and earning less revenue.

A little spring cleaning could be a very good thing for everyone who wants to make an honest buck. And I guess if it doesn't go as Google planned, it can always go back and revert... doubt the old arbiters will hesitate to join the program again later... the 70K/mo boys and all. :-P

p/g

Marcia

11:30 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The timing will leave a full month to go before the end of 2nd quarter. It'll be interesting to see how that will affect or show up for 2nd QTR earnings figures.

drall

12:24 pm on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just in time for the full release of the cpa product.

jetteroheller

12:30 pm on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It would be interesting to discuss some data from Google Analytics from banned accounts vs publishers using AdWords and are not banned.

I am sure, there is something different viewable in the Google Analytics data.

This differences could be in

page views per visitors
visit length
pattern of repeated visitors

Let's discuss a hypothesis

page vies per visitor < 1.5
visit lenght < 30 seconds
repeated visitors < 2%

could be critical parameters

sailorjwd

12:57 pm on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I don't see how the account cancellations could cause this (yet) but I'm seeing an unprecedented change in advertisers on my pages.

wheel

1:02 pm on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Great job on getting rid of all those nasty MFA's. Nothing but a pile of crap full of advertising. They only thing worse than that stuff are those domain landing pages run by companies like...oh, I dunno, GOOGLE.

(I'm being cynical btw. 'Clean up' MFA's while still running domain landing pages? How hypocritical is that? FWIW, I've got a friend who loves MFA's. His customers call him and tell him they see his ads everywhere - great for branding. I disagree, but that's free market.)

hyperkik

1:14 pm on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This is a different issue from traditional MFA's. Google seemed to view MFA's as primarily a spam issue. Its focus was on eliminating their natural traffic, as opposed to revoking AdSense accounts. Arbitrage puts "spammy" sites right back onto Google's front page. Gentler efforts to take the money out of arbitrage (e.g., smart pricing, landing page quality) apparently weren't sufficiently successful, so now the hammer drops.

I suspect that there are three (or more) reasons why Google waited as long as it did to take this action.

First, MFA's and arbitrage have helped it maintain a sufficient population of publishers to distribute its ad inventory. I think it is likely that they have "done the math" and find that they have enough publishers in the program to distribute that inventory even after the arbitrage sites are excluded.

Second, I suspect that successful arbitrage sites have provided Google with a wealth of information for both AdSense and AdWords, about which keywords work for advertisers and about effective contextual matching for publishers. With sites using AdWords to drive AdSense, they know what ad led to an arbitrage page, they know what ad was clicked on the arbitrage page, and to some degree (depending on how the term is defined) they know which of those ads "converted". This helps them better suggest keywords and phrases to other advertisers, and helps them better match ads to websites ("This is what our algorithm thought matched; but as it turns out, this other ad from the arbitrage site was what the user actually wanted.") Whatever else people may think of arbitrage sites, this would be very valuable data.

Third, it is reasonable to infer that Google sees arbitrage as having a negative effect on its future revenues through AdWords and AdSense. Even if you accept that an arbitrage site's ad converts well, there is no reason why the same ad wouldn't perform just as well if it were presented in the SERPs or on the site which presented the arbitrager's ads. Whatever happens with publishers, and I supsect most will benefit from this change, this will take some money out of Google's own pocket for a while unless it expands its pool of advertisers or restores sufficient confidence that bids go up significantly.

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