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Personalized Search Now Default

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incrediBILL

12:16 am on Dec 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Google Blog [googleblog.blogspot.com]
Today we're helping people get better search results by extending Personalized Search to signed-out users worldwide

That's a staggering statement meaning that every computer accessing Google is now being personalized, signed in or not, so any desktop, laptop or kiosk will start tracking everything everyone does and you won't be able to access the same search results from any two machines.

The possible impact to all is staggering.

Staffa

10:21 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have any doubts that Google assumes your content is theirs to do with as they want?

None whatsoever and since translating your website with software is the worst you can do to it I have G translate banned more than a year ago.
What I want people to find in a language other than English I translate myself (I'm fluent in 5 languages), else there are no doubt pages that cover the same content in the visitor's language on other sites. Live and let live.

loudspeaker

10:56 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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but then translated those sites in full when you clicked through

This is great! Not only will you be able to wade through thousands of results coming from the new spAmOL, Demand Media, etc etc, they'll add in lots of machine-translated nonsense from all around the world. This is just awesome! I can't wait for the new omnivorous Google - after all, as everybody knows, all your base are belong to us!

steveb

11:11 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's pretty naive to say the average user won't care. of course they will as the search results get crappier and more limited, and they get cluttered up with garbage like their neighbor's twitter.

Average users won't know immediately the screwball, bedroom-peeping philosophy behind Google trashing its own serps, but as the results become more and more limited, people will care... though they won't do much about it except complain.

dstiles

11:18 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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After someone in this thread mentioned it I tried the meta-engine ixquick AKA startpage. I rather like it.

Amongst other things such as not logging IPs it has an option to use SSL, which is a good idea if you are concerned with ISPs intercepting your traffic (illegal in Europe but yet another UK ISP is trying it on).

Since it's a meta-enging, aggregating data from several engines including google, one has to ask: does startpage/ixquick get personalized results from google? Does it get results based on world-wide searches?

Actually I doubt it, since they probably do not accept cookies, but it would be a laugh, wouldn't it? :)

Hissingsid

8:55 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Isn't it about time that browsers gave us more control over cookies? It seems to me that cookies are now being used in ways that the original spec never envisaged. The simple fact that a unique ID, stored in a cookie can and does act as the key to a potentially massive repository of information on your behaviour and browsing history is way beyond what most people would expect.

I like cookies that make my browsing experience easier and better. I like the fact that I don't have to log into Webmasterworld each time I visit, I don't mind that some shopping trolleys store bits of data about what is in my basket and what the running total is, but I do mind that some sites are using them to track me long term for their own ends.

A browser app could allow us to set up more specific filters on cookies with a restrictive set of prefs as standard. A browser app could for example allow cookies to be set but restrict when the server is allowed to read them. It could have pattern match filters that prevented what look like unique IDs from being set and read. Browsers could and in my opinion should, give us back much more control. Google thinks it owns us, in fact the browser comes between us and Google and the browser could take back control.

Cheers

Sid

londrum

10:36 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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there's not really any way of doing that, but it would be nice.
a cookie value can just be something simple like a completely random text string, which then pulls all its data from a database.

Hissingsid

11:21 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What I am saying is that browser apps should give us this level of control over cookies.

I would like to be able to stop all domains setting what look like a unique ID. Could be done using regex.

Cheers

Sid

arizonadude

2:16 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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people will care... though they won't do much about it except complain.

I think your wrong. After all, even the most PC challenged person can figure out how to use another search engine and that is what is going to happen. Once the SERPS are returning results that people are not looking for but what Google thinks they want, they will leave.

This is a great example of how being "to smart" is going to cause Google to get knocked off their perch. All you have to do is read the dribble coming out of the mouthpieces at Google to see the writing on the wall.

Google has way to many smart people with no real concept of reality. They live in a Google world and think that they will make all our decisions for us.

My Gorg test with my daugher has bore fruit. She was able to get her computer class to switch all the PCs home page to Bing. That is how a movement starts. One person at a time.

Sorry Gorg, but I for one will not be assimilated into you thinking for me.

zett

2:26 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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That is how a movement starts. One person at a time.

Yep. +1

Another interesting aspect is that things can go badly wrong by just tiny deviations from the original setup/plan. Look up "chaos theory" in your favorite search engine.

Or go and watch "Jurassic Park" again. The similarities are striking: a stunning amusement park, tons of money for research and execution, world domination (in its niche) is just a matter of time. Yet things go terribly terribly wrong, and quickly, with an outcome that the business owners did not foresee in their wildest dreams.

HuskyPup

2:55 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)



Isn't it about time that browsers gave us more control over cookies?

You can do this in Opera for it to remember by accepting or refusing the cookie when visiting a new site.

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