Data Center Watch 2006 May 05

Oh no. . . . not another DC thread!

[Komodo_Tale]

I am seeing changes in:

64.233.161.107
64.233.161.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
216.239.37.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.59.99
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.107
64.233.167.99
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.167.104
216.239.39.104
216.239.59.104
64.233.179.107
72.14.207.107
216.239.39.107
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147
64.233.167.147

And am experiencing major happiness. Some of these these results were visible on five DCs on and off for the last week. It now appears to be spreading and on some DCs I am experiencing a small additional boost.

I for one hope this sticks.

[Eazygoin]

Because of Google stating that they need more capacity to store information, have they adopted an 'omitted' results policy when doing a site: search?........in other words, it only shows the first 6 or so results, with an 'omitted results' statement at the bottom.

[simonmc]

Lets just all face up to it. Google does not owe us anything. We don't owe google anything. Let's just stop this partnership thinking as it does not exist. It never did.

Google will probably ride out this storm just like it rode out all the others. That I am sure is their thinking anyway. We must make sure that it is not as simple as that though.

We need to encourage everyone we know to try out the other engines. Try Yahoo for a week and see how you feel. Try MSN for a week and see how you feel.

As webmasters we NEED competetition in the search engine market. It is vital to our businesses that no one search engine holds a monopoly or near monopoly. Absolutelty vital.

The way to reduce your risks is to promote, promote and promote more the other choices for search.

If one third of your search traffic came from google and they messed up their results as we have all become accustomed to over the last year then you will not suffer so badly. Your risk would have diminished.

When you get 80% of your search traffic from google and they do the usual changes that send you into hyperspace it really damages your business. That is a massive risk to behold to one company.

The ONLY solution to to make sure that we reduce our risk is to encourage everyone we know to use the other search engines.

What google does with their risks is up to them. They are not interested in working with us so we should reciprocate that in kind.

[tebrino]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but both of my sites have returned exactly the same positions they had before BD. I first noticed this few hours ago on Google's partner sites (like AOL and Tesco) and it spread slowly on all datacenters. Everything is the same, including old competition and old spammers (only two for my keyword).

Only thing I changed is that now all of my non-www pages point to www versions and index page points to domain root. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with this change...

[Dayo_UK]

For some reason when I do a site search my homepage is now last - it was sitting in second position underneath an internal page....

Hmmmz - what is interesting (well perhaps slightly) for the sites that seem to have been reduced to homepage only is that all versions of the homepage Google seems to know about are listed.

EG. If you do a site:www.domain.com check you will see www.domain.com and www.domain.com/index.php - followed by supplementals (or no listings) etc - change that to a site:domain.com then you may get domain.com (and www.domain.com is filtered out - which worries me a bit when they filter the correct domains homepage at any stage)

Also - on some DCs - some of the time if you do a site:domain.com it does not return the www.domain.com homepage - even if domain.com does not exists. EG. For some sites that have been reduced to the homepage on the www and no other pages (supps etc) in a site search effectively you get no pages returned on a site:domain.com but pages on a site:www.domain.com search.

Are Google working on something here - or is it just symptons of the bug - probably symptons of the bug unfortunately.

[tigger]

seeing a massive drop/switch in rankings on G.co.uk using
66.249.93.104 its almost wiped out all my top rankings anyone else seeing anything on this DC?

[djmick200]

seeing a massive drop/switch in rankings on G.co.uk using
66.249.93.104 its almost wiped out all my top rankings anyone else seeing anything on this DC?

Not here, I just checked a few kw's after reading your post. No movement for me.

[frakilk]

I'm seeing a return to pre Dec 27th results on what it seems like is all DCs. Will it stick? I don't know. I'm not getting my hopes up yet.

[petehall]

I'm not getting my hopes up yet.

About a result set which would be almost 6 months old?

What ever happened to progress?

[tigger]

>Not here, I just checked a few kw's after reading your post. No movement for me.

cheers G traffic has all but vanished from this DC - crazy

[petehall]

Original "good results" now back on:
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

I now have a headache.

[Kangol]

Oh, indeed good results on those DCs. Ill make a print screen to add them to my portfolio :)

[wheelie34]

@ tigger

my uk google (north west on BT) is 66.102.9.104 serps remain constant, however, the IP you gave shows same serps BUT sponsored links top and bottom, none down the side, not seen that before, yet

Original "good results" now back on:
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

yes the results of 2 mondays ago (8th May 06), excellent

I now have a headache.

I now have a smile

[edited by: wheelie34 at 11:57 am (utc) on May 16, 2006]

[fred9989]

I briefly saw a modified form of the recent "good" results on google.com but when I went to check the data centre they had vanished. They are still showing on at least
72.14.207.104
and AOL.com
So - seems like the experiment continues. Maybe Google has a secret plan to check out the stress resistance of webmasters.
Rod

[tigger]

>none down the side

I just checked again as I was sure they were on the side and 66.249.93.104 is showing ads top & side?

>>Maybe Google has a secret plan to check out the stress resistance of webmasters.

got news for you mine went POP! a long time ago

[edited by: tigger at 11:59 am (utc) on May 16, 2006]

[fred9989]

Just to add to the above post, the "good" results set have a cache date of 14 May, the others 10 May
R

[Nick0r]

Woohoo, don't know what exactly happened but those DC's are showing good numbers of pages indexed, money pages that had gone walkies returned, and back to decent rankings. *Crosses fingers*

[petehall]

I now have a headache.

I now have a smile

Secretly, so have I. :-)

[edited by: petehall at 1:50 pm (utc) on May 16, 2006]

[reseller]

petehall

" Original "good results" now back on:
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104"

And they are staying as such for how long ;-)

"I now have a headache."

Get yourself a Cappuccino or two, and you will be ok :-)

[edited by: reseller at 1:52 pm (utc) on May 16, 2006]

[petehall]

Until Google updates properly I'm afraid I can only afford instant coffee... :-)

[300m]

64.233.179.99 and 64.233.179.104

If this spreads, I am getting drunk and celebrating. I will get traffic that I had in March which was my best organic month ever.

[edited by: 300m at 1:54 pm (utc) on May 16, 2006]

[petehall]

Ladies and gents, we have another conversion @ 64.233.179.107.

[tigger]

well right now I'm seeing 66.249.93.104 and its completely kicked me into touch

[M3Guy]

I'm currently seeing 64.233.183.104 and much like Tigger, this one has battered me.

Historical 1st place rankings have dropped down out of the top 200 results on an all web search and down to pos 30 odd for a uk only search

This just seems to be getting worse rather than better, I can this driving a lot of people to drink or even worse, back to having to go get a job if it doesn't improve and quickly

[300m]

Its interesting that you say that, historically, i have been in the top 3 for a lot of terms in my niche and they periodically tank, but then they make it back to pre tanked levels. Its almost like someone is turning some magical filter knob on the serps.

[M3Guy]

These results have been there for ages, both before and after Jagger and since BD rolled out, and now, all of a sudden at about 1pm today, they all went south

[tigger]

someone is doing something to the serps I'm 40% down in traffic today and at this rate MSN is going to overtake G

[Steph_R]

same here

[300m]

I feel your pain on that tigger. It happened to me in the beginning of April and have seen little progress until today. I hope it works out for you as well. With the way that Goole has been since Jagger, its been a roller coaster for me. I am not getting optimistic except maybe for todays sales.

[reseller]

tigger

"someone is doing something to the serps I'm 40% down in traffic today..."

I really feel with you and Dayo_UK. Are we talking UK traffic or traffic in general?

[frakilk]

300m -

Do you think that its coincidence that we are both seeing big recoveries today seeing as though we were both affected badly by the Dec 27th data refresh?

Today marks my first recovery day in 5 months.

Tigger I feel your pain.