Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
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And am experiencing major happiness. Some of these these results were visible on five DCs on and off for the last week. It now appears to be spreading and on some DCs I am experiencing a small additional boost.
I for one hope this sticks.
Just indexing a very small portion of our site.. On all Datacenters...
In my niche paid for backlinks are being rewarded again. Whatever knob they are turning to try and sort one problem is helping the vote riggers.
Sid
That has to be a bug.
Poor Search Quality!
After consuming few Cappuccinos, I realized that I'm still looking at very poor quality serps, when doing some DCs watching this morning.
In a sector related to online advertising and marketing I see on top 10, two sites which really shouldn't be there. A site about web stats and the other about discount shopping!
Lets hope our friends at the plex read thsese lines and do something ;-)
I wish you a great day.
to say the least reseller, one of my terms that I'm sat at 9th for only has 4 relevant sites within the top 10! the other 5 are directories and a book site!
flip the same search over to Y or MSN not one non-relevant site in either the serps are spot on, lets hope the public start seeing this soon
On another note, I don't know why Google even sends their representatives in here if they don't take any of our perspectives seriously. Do they just come in here to sugar coat us and make us feel they are going to do something? This BD rollout has taken way too long to implement and if this is the final implementation that we are seeing on the SERP's it's really sad Google!
Two weeks ago I seen the best SERP's I have ever seen on Google..Now...Laugh, I don't dare use them when I'm really searching for something, especially if it's a purchase of some sort. For research I find Yahoo to be the best whenever I have to figure out something about MySQL and PHP. Its relevancy for that topic is 100%, 1-10. Of course I may be alone on my opinions and that is all it's worth. :>~
The way we can all do this is to tell our clients...tell everyone to checkout MSN and Yahoo too.
"The way we can all do this is to tell our clients...tell everyone to checkout MSN and Yahoo too."
I'm a Google fan, you know ;-)
Therefore, instead, I prefer to tell everyone in Googleplex to work harder for better search quality. I know they can do it, even while our good friend Matt Cutts on a 6 weeks vacation :-)
I'm a Google fan, you know ;-)Therefore, instead, I prefer to tell everyone in Googleplex to work harder for better search quality.
Believe it or not, Reseller, G doesn't give 2 pence about you. :) Nor any webmaster.
Personally, I am "whitenight" fan, so let Google stay arrogant, blind, and close-mouthed, and eventually Joe Public will migrate to relevant results on other SE's.
So long as no search engine is providing more than 40% of total searches, I could care less about what the SE's brand name is.
When MS or Yahoo or "New SE" breaks that 40% threshold, I'll be telling webmasters the same thing, "Stop promoting any SE to the long term detriment of YOUR business."
We, webmasters, ultimately have ourselves to blame for this predicament. We hyped Google up and now Frankengoog has forgotten who made it.
Luckily we have the same ability to restore a natural balance to the SE wars.
Until these match the other SERPs I wouldn't count chickens about the update being over.
You can also protect yourself by encouraging people to sample things. You never know when Google is going to screw your site next, so rather than being a voyeur after the fact why not be pro-active and spread your risk.
Tell everyone you know to test Yahoo and MSN too for comparrison.
It is in every webmasters interest to make sure that no one engine has a manopoly or close to a manopoly. Same will go for MSN when they take up the fight. We must not let them dominate either.
"Believe it or not, Reseller, G doesn't give 2 pence about you. :) Nor any webmaster."
But there are very encouraging signs in the air :-)
Google Appoints Another Webmaster Liaison [webmasterworld.com]
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For example, on 64.233.179.107 I'm seeing substantial changes for one benchmark KW, but not for another benchmark KW.
Time to put on some music and watch the dancing SERPs.
the phrase is like “kw1 and kw2 kw3”.
“kw1 and kw2” is a common expression. kw3 is a city name.
for a search on kw1 kw3 or kw2 kw3 results are top on all DC’s.
For me it looks like the DC’s above do not have a filter.
My default google.com is :
[72.14.207.104...]
Nothing less than the "experimental" DC itself ... can you imagine?
God I'm sad, but expecting something to happen imminently.
So, I did some keyword searches on the same DC, and they are showing also as non-supp. This is interesting, as the ones I checked weren't amongst the 67 in the site: check!
Hey, ho......back to other stuff!
And here we go again :-)
My default google.com is :[72.14.207.104...]
Nothing less than the "experimental" DC itself ... can you imagine?
That DC has the same crap results that most of the DCs have on them. Econman's list looks more like what I would expect in my niche.
64.233.161.147 is an example of very bad results. Some real crap rises to the surface for me here.
64.233.183.107 is a tad better.
Econman's list has OK results.
IMHO
Sid
"Whats interesting is we are #1 for google.ca for our important keywords, however none of the datacenters show us above position #12,...."
That phenomenon of seeing things on google.com or local Googles which can't be traced back to datacenters, has first been observed recently. I called it at the time I noticed it; Google Virtual Datacenters.
Some friends explained it as several boxes hiding behind the same DC IP!
However, if that is the case, why we haven't noticed that phenomenon before BigDaddy update?
Now only seen on:
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Where are we heading from here?!
I'm already starting to see MSN fast catching G for referrals although that could have something to do with the fact that MSN has my site fully crawled and indexed!
More in terms of ability to capture the web as it is today.
Google still serve relevant results, however they are excluding / unable to rank a very high volume of useful sites which ultimately is no good for users.
I suppose it's a bit like trying to plan a journey with a ten year old road map - all seems fine until you set off and realise there was actually a lot of important information missing.
You'd kick yourself if you used Google for a search, only to find after committing to a service that there were actually five other (more recent) sites offering better services.
This is the reality I'm afraid!
IMO anyway...
Niche authority devalued yet again, while spamrank (spam on stupidly "trusted" free hosts) sites rise even more.
I'm guessing the stuff on the 64 datacenter is halfbaked and may disappear within hours since so much of it is non-canonical pages (like index.asp showing instead of /, or affiliate tracking codes pages showing).
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Also disturbingly, it does look like those pages with a parallel supplemental are suffering badly. It could be that Google is so screwed up now that the older supps are gone the foolish penalties against pages with supps now are being applied even stronger.
[edited by: steveb at 9:25 am (utc) on May 16, 2006]
