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64.233.161.107
64.233.161.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
216.239.37.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.59.99
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.107
64.233.167.99
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.167.104
216.239.39.104
216.239.59.104
64.233.179.107
72.14.207.107
216.239.39.107
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147
64.233.167.147
And am experiencing major happiness. Some of these these results were visible on five DCs on and off for the last week. It now appears to be spreading and on some DCs I am experiencing a small additional boost.
I for one hope this sticks.
Easy Come, Easy Go :-)
What I considered once better quality search has returned back on this DC since yesterday evening.
[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]
For how long? Who knows.
Same here. Was hoping against hope the site was going to recover but I see it was just another false alarm.
http://72.14.203.99
[72.14.203.104<...]Wow, reseller, those are some NICE DCs! These are the best SERPs I have seen since pre-April.
-S
I just noticed something a tad odd.
When I search on .co.uk for one of our secondary 2 word terms we are at #1 with an indented listing at #2 and a link under saying "More pages from Sid's site".
I mouse over the cache and I get 216.239.59.104 also in Firefox I see the IP as 216.239.59.104.
I cut and paste 216.239.59.104 into my browser and in the resultant Google page, which has the "English" rather than the "UK" logo I repeat the search. Now I'm at #1 no indented #2 and no "More pages from Sid's site".
This may be important for us UK DC watchers because we can't see what users are seeing by going to a DCs IP.
I have also noticed that the McDar results do not match the results I see when I go direct to an IP from where I am in the UK.
Any comments?
Sid
Rankings plummenting to catastrophic levels here as well. It's a good thing I didn't get my hopes up about a stable recovery. Let's just hope that Google liked what they saw when fiddling about.
Anyone else notice the datacenters that used to show many sites out of the sandbox aren't doing so anymore?
They have now moved to:
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
I still see yet nother variation on:
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
The 'variation' has been there a long time now.
Confused as ever.
I posted on your point earlier in this thread and got nil response:
>>>>>>>Ellio:
"However if you replace www.google.co.uk in the search string with 66.249.93.104 you get dramatically different SERPs.
This applies regardless of the DC being used for the cache. Any ideas why? "Reseller: I had noticed something similar recently, and asked. Few kind fellow members posted some clarification here.
Google Data Centers Watch 2006-04-25
[webmasterworld.com...]
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Reseller, yes I read that thread at the time and agree with the idea of virtual DC's however in this case I think its something different.
It would appear that results from google.co.uk (or similar other country) are filtered in a different way than can be replicated by replacing google.co.uk with a DC IP address. Even if the DC producing the results is definately the one being used by Google.co.uk.
I have noticed this for some time but only recently spent time looking into it. I find it interesting as we feature even higher in the SERPs when the google.co.uk bit is replaced by the DC IP address. The rest of the search string is identical including the country filters etc. I just cannot figure why.
Another interesting factor is that standard "pages from the UK" search strings include something like this:
&cr=countryUK¦countryGB
1. Why the two countries - UK & GB (sameplace!)
2. Why massivley improved SERPs if the ¦countryGB is removed leaving only &cr=countryUK.This must have some relevance. Admittedly to non US users.
To summarise it would appear that you cannot get IP specific results for UK searches as the SERPS are very different when an IP address replaces www.google.co.uk in the search string!
This will give you a 100% accurate UK search on any DC.
Same thing for me. Interesting thing is that these "bad datacenters" don't show my home page when I search for site:www.example.com and those from yesterday do.
Always the same thing when your website is penalized (sandboxed), it's the easy way to know if you got a problem in Google
The best thing is that I run dozens of money websites and this roller coaster doesn't have a big impact on my total daily income. Affiliate income went down while Adsense went up and now it's the other way around. I know my business is far from safe but at least it's better than having only one major money site.
The way to do it is to edit your hosts file with the data centre IP and www.google.co.uk.
This will give you a 100% accurate UK search on any DC.
I thought that worked for changing toolbar IP but not for search strings?
Can you give full instructions please?
Many thanks
I posted on your point earlier in this thread and got nil response:
Sorry, I missed it, I'm just dipping into and out of the thread looking for hopeful signs ;)
I'm not so bothered about seeing what other folks on this thread are seeing as seeing what other UK Google users see. Watching DCs is purely academic if in reality local filters give local users a different set of SERPs in their browsers.
I'm not technical enough to know but doubt that changing the host file will persuade Google to apply local filters to IP address searches.
Best wishes
Sid
PS I know that I'm taking a selfish view but the reality hits my business. The academic is just interesting.
I agree with your comments as it is not possible to accurately monitor alternative DC's in the UK.(as per my previous post)
I tried the hosts file but it did not work for me.
I thought that worked for changing toolbar IP but not for search strings?Can you give full instructions please?
It works for both in my experience.
Your hosts file can be located in:
c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/
Add the following to your hosts file:
64.233.167.104 www.google.co.uk
So it end up looking soemthing like this:
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host
127.0.0.1 localhost
64.233.167.104 www.google.co.uk
I tried the hosts file but it did not work for me.
You need to save the file and then open a new browser window, otherwise the changes will have no effect.
This works 100% I use it all the time.
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
I was having trouble finding a specific listing in the SERPs on 64.233.167.99 and 64.233.167.104; I thought it has disappeared completely, then I realized that the site I was looking for has a new/different title. The normal listing uses the page title; this one uses a title that google must have invented on its own (google did a pretty good job). I get the impression google is testing some new algorithms to use in lieu of the page title provided by the site.
All the DCs are now inline and appear stable.
The only exception being these two odd DCs which have been stable for a while:
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
RIP good results. You were good while you lasted.
I'm off to get drunk...
The 'good results' are officially DEAD.
That's funny--I haven't seen any official notice about any of this. ;-)
-S
Our site dropped from page 2 to page 10 so I did some checking and see that google is once again showing the old non www versions of my site with a cache date over a year old. This only happens if I search for my site without the www. If I search the domain with the www I get good current pages but without the www the old supplemental crap is showing once again.
Google had this cleared up and everything was looking good for a few month's now but "it appears" they are re-introducing some old data center garb again with cannonical url problems for some reason. And yes I do have a 301 redirect in place to block visiting a non www page so this must be some old junk.
I wonder if this story about Google's machine crisis has anything to do with it... [webmasterworld.com...]
That's funny--I haven't seen any official notice about any of this. ;-)
Err... well that'll be "unofficially dead" in that case :-)
"The 'good results' are officially DEAD."
IMO, there hasn't been good "stable" results since BigDaddy arrived. So when we talk about good results we MUST accept that its TEMPORARY ones.
I.e we need to adopt to that good results are at random. off-on. And that has been documented on several threads by several fellow members.
Accordingly todays "good results" as far as the sector I watch and my test search keywords are only this set:
[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]
I consider it good results because there are ONLY two sites which shouldn't be there on top 10 listings.
Pre-BigDaddy, good results for me means that all top 10 listing are relevant. Not any more (:(
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:36 pm (utc) on May 19, 2006]
