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Is this a big google update going on?

watching the data centers

         

eskipii

8:14 pm on Dec 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i'm seeing a big change in some data centers, looks awesome. this is one fine christmas gift.

Kangs

10:55 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



StriderUK, Thanks, but what do you mean by Canonical?

[ am sorry you have had (and continue to have) the canonical problem]

colin_h

11:17 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'm getting a tickle from corp.google.com today. Twice visited on the same page in about 30 minutes. I was under the impression that these are manual checks from google, but the visits are only logging as 0 seconds.

Anyone got any ideas?

StriderUK

11:27 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Kangs - I didn't write the following but it explains canonical nicely:

"Canonical essentially means “standard” or “authoritative”, so a canonical URL for search engine marketing purposes is the URL you want people to see. Depending on how your web site was programmed or how your tracking URLs are setup for marketing campaign, there may be more than one URL for a particular web page.

Sometimes if a domain is not setup properly, the domain URL (domain.com) and the www domain URL (www.domain.com) are considered individual web pages. Since both pages maybe indexed by Google - you could get hit for duplicate content and at the very least you would be splitting your link popularity.

The easiest way to protect your site is to redirect all forms of your domain to one “standard” URL - a canonical URL."

We implemented a 301 redirect at beginning of jagger because we had a canonical problem and this has now been fixed. Hope this helps!

colin_h

11:34 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



Has anyone else noticed that webmasterworld is back in the serps? I've also got WebmasterWorld showing duplicate pages when I search for a topic.

I have 481,000 pages on my default DC. I thought that WebmasterWorld had roboted google out.

[edited by: colin_h at 11:41 am (utc) on Dec. 29, 2005]

Kangs

11:37 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



StriderUK, Ooh it is clear now. Many thanks.

BillyS

1:01 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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colin_h - see here:

[webmasterworld.com...]

I noticed the change about a week ago.

BillyS

1:06 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone the dropped in the late September timeframe made it back to previous results? I've made quite a bit of changes attempting to eliminiate duplicate content (leaking of pages, long story), but I suspect I've got other problems too.

Going on month #4 with virtually no traffic from Google. After spending 13 months in the sandbox, this is quite discouraging.

taps

1:48 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Billy: Yes, we did. In our case the problem was very obvious since we made it back from Allegra during Bourbon. We eliminated all possible dupe content last spring.

But one modification in robots.txt after returning sent us down in serps again. After fixing that we made it back.

cleanup

1:53 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BillyS and all missing in action around Sept22

"Has anyone the dropped in the late September timeframe made it back to previous results? "

Yes, sort of. My Sept 22 site has its homepage back to its pre-22 position (more or less) for all its important searches.

Pages within the site, (in common with my other sites post Jagger) are not ranking at all.

I have implemented 301 on all my sites, and eliminated (again) duplicate content with other sites that stole my content.

I can also report an improvement with respect to the Suppemental listings I have been mentioning. The Index.html which was supplemental is now not listed (I redirected to site.com/) instead the site.com/ is listed and all (indexed) pages are now www.

I think I said before that although I have made changes to my sites during and since Jagger, I do not expect that these changes have affected anything.

I maintain that these problems have been Googles and they are slowly but surely getting to grips.

So, In summary, although things look like they are improving for Sept22/Jagger casualties I do not want to start jumping up and down just yet.

Futhermore, the problem I have with internal pages not ranking is another seemingly unrelated (Jagger) problem which as soon as we get any stability I will be looking into.

Thanks and good luck to all in 2006!

BillyS

2:43 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here is one thing that I observed in the November / December timeframe.

In November, quite a few of my pages went URL only in Google. Spidering was also lackluster (1,800 pages in November, 3,700 so far this month).

The pages that are still URL only are blocked by robots.txt. I removed around 150 pages that might be deemed duplicate content (navigational pages).

I'm right on the edge of 1,000 pages (where the site: command is having a problem). Right now according to my sitemap, I've got 1,020 pages.

In November, Google showed 10,400 pages on the site. Currently it shows a more accurate value of 985.

I'm hoping all the spidering activity is a positive sign. Although nearly 1,800 of these are from Mozilla Googlebot.

TammyJo

5:21 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Site has regained all rankings as pre-Jagger (plus some). I just did some site clean up as far as www vs. non www pages, went back to older pages and revamped.

The site was not hit by any prior updates (the site is 6 years old).

Dayo_UK

5:44 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



I am pretty sure if you catch the non-www problem early enough after the bug hits the Google index for your site then it does not seem to last that long (eg 1-2 months)

If left though the bug seems more ingrained when you finally do the fix.

Hopefully when the test dc comes back more bugs are solved.

Eazygoin

6:01 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo>>

The test DC has been available to me all day. Kinda strange :-)

Thats assuming its 64.233.179.104 that you meant.

Dayo_UK

6:05 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



Those are not test results though - they went missing about 24 hours ago.

Eazygoin

6:10 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Uhmmm....how do I know if they are test results or standard results....apart from seeing possibly seeing varying results?
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