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Is this a big google update going on?

watching the data centers

         

eskipii

8:14 pm on Dec 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i'm seeing a big change in some data centers, looks awesome. this is one fine christmas gift.

reseller

8:46 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good morning folks

Hopefiully you are enjoying the present vigorous reshuffling on the DCs. Something for sure has happened during the last 9 hours or so!

It could lead to anything ;-)

Ladies and Gentlemen.. please fasten your seat belts!

Dayo_UK

9:14 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Steveb

What type of problems being fixed are you seeing - Canonical? - or ranking? or other?

I am seeing some Canonical problems being fixed but they are not ranking.

Hopefully rank will follow..... I guess that make sense - but would be intrested to know if you are seeing rank return for the problems you have identified.

I have not seen much progress over the last few days although cache on the 22nd for a few homepages have been entered so the homepages at least have relatively new cache - shame about the rest of the site :/

Mountdoom

9:33 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Think I reported this to the wrong thread, so apologies for repeating myself but our site completely re-emerged from the depths of jagger yesterday across all dcs (on mcdar). Notably, our home page is now top when I do site:domain.com or site:www.domain.com with only www pages being returned. Also when searching on title of our home page we appear first (previously > 300). We did make a number of changes to titles (making unique), content and keyword frequency, but with 1500 html pages, we only got round to changing a few so this can't have made a difference. Either we were penalized (can't see a reason for this) or Jagger introduced a bug. IMO the fact that our home page now appears top for site:www.domain.com suggests that page rank is cascading in one direction rather than evaporating from across our whole site.

reseller

9:51 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

Please take a look at these two DCs. The serps of these two DCs look different than the rest, in the sectors I'm watching.

[64.233.183.99...]

[64.233.183.104...]

Dayo_UK

Do you see anything of interest ;-)

sore66

9:58 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I like those but why wouldn't I? I am #1 on both for my word. I made a change to my site a few weeks ago and Google caught it and lifted me up.

Praise Google!

Why did you choose those 2 DCs?

Dayo_UK

10:01 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Reseller

For me those DCs are the same as the half a dozen or so, including 66.102.9.104, that have been showing different results since Jagger3 started.

They have not spread to other dcs at all in that time though.

sore66

10:06 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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These unchanging 6 that have not propogated, do you know what part of the world they serve?

reseller

10:09 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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sore66

>>Why did you choose those 2 DCs? <<

Because I have noticed they have different serps than the rest in the sectors I watch. Also fresh cache.

If an update is underway, those two DCs are going to lead, IMO.

I guess we shouldn't let the test DC 64.233.179.104 blind our vision of whats going on on the rest of DCs.

So, until further.. I suggest you keep an open eye on the two DCs ;-)

[64.233.183.99...]

[64.233.183.104...]

Dayo_UK

10:10 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



From the UK I virtually always hit 66.102.9.104.

But it could be my ISP or something. I guess they are in rotation in most areas.

Reseller - I think the test dc is more significant - we know and can see that new infastructure is being built there.

reseller

10:22 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

>>Reseller

For me those DCs are the same as the half a dozen or so, including 66.102.9.104, that have been showing different results since Jagger3 started.<<

Not at all. Sorry my friend ;-)

66.102.9.104 is showing at the moment entirely different serps than the two DCs I mentioned, as far as the sectors I'm watching are concerned.

[64.233.183.99...]

[64.233.183.104...]

steveb

10:26 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo, the fix seems to relate to pages lost September 22 (three weeks before Jagger). They did a fix during Jagger that partially helped, then now it seems to have helped a lot more, though I still see some pages with concrete overshoes on them.

These are not canonical issues. I don't think there was ever any clear understanding of what happened September 22nd. I have to laugh because some changes are so huge, even though lots of folks might not notice anything. One search I track got back its previous #1 and #2 pages (tho #2 is at #3 now). Pages seem to not have fully regained rank but are close.

anttiv

10:31 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site that was hit Sept 22 but got partially back in Jagger 3 has been filtered back to nowhere on all datacenters.

I picked up my mail for today and Google just sent me a happy new year card. How ironic.

Dayo_UK

10:32 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Ok - thanks Steve

I did not have any sites hit then so cant really comment on that issue.

All my sites date back to problems starting in Algera (or slighly before) due to Canonical/302 probs etc - I am hoping the new groundwork that Google has in place will lead to at least these sites getting correctly crawled. But I guess that will take time - at least the homepage(s) are being crawled again :)

Anyone seeing improvements in sites effected/hit back then by the Canonical/302 Bug?

Marval

11:17 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK - still seeing a friends site having canonical problems with that new dataset - an example where a site: command brings back two copies of the same page - one with the www and the next entry is the same page without the www.

Noted that the version with the www cache date is the 19th of Dec and the version without the www cache date is the 20th of Dec.

Looks like they got rid of the weird variants though where he had wwww and ww2 etc listed as well - those are gone.

Looking at rankings he hasnt regained anything although he has been an authority in that area since 1996 and has normally been top 10 with no problems over the years for hundreds of phrases and single word searches

tinytim

11:20 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



ONE THING I HAVE TO SAY
THANK YOU GOOGLE FOR MY BEST EVER XMAS PRESENT.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THE 27/12 2005.
THANKS GOOGLE
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