January 2007 Google SERP Changes - part 3

[concepts99]

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I have a few terms left in google that rank well, I wanted to find out why they still ranked well. Here is my conclusion so far,

using a site:#*$!x (keyword here), I search for keywords that used to ranked well in google.

Some keywords pull up as much as 15,000 pages, some 11,000+

For keywords on MY site that was UNDER 400 result or so (not a few thousand), the results REMAINED in Google ranking, top 10 or so.

For internal searches on keywords with more than a few hundred, it dropped off the chart.

I think I am being penalized for heavy internal linking or keyword usage on my pages, but I am not sure how to overcome this since I have a large site and I am using product titles to navigate

for example

home : department : Product a:

product b
product c
product d

and product b would be

home : Department : Product B

product c
product d

Now if you multiply this by a couple thousand products, you can see why there will be a lot of links to any particular keyword and I think I am being penalized for it.

IS google tell us to kill good navigation to get ranked

Basically, all the pages will be

home : Department
Product (x)

and NOTHING ELSE

I guess they are trying to get rid of affiliate farms, but legitimate sites are getting penalized.

[edited by: tedster at 9:13 am (utc) on Jan. 22, 2007]

[c41lum]

Hi Guys,

Guess what, after the recovery on Sunday Goggle has gone and gave the SERP's in the UK a good ol'shake again and guess what. The brown scum is back on the top and the decent content filled pages are no where to be seen.

I have never belived this "2 days on 2 days off" talk, just simply because I couldn't see a company like Google doing that. Surely what we all want is consistant results. That way the users (searches/customers) know exactly where to find what. At the moment one day you find good results the next its all gone crazy again and the page that was number 1 is now on page 5.

Thanks Again Google, Your The Best! NOT

[outland88]

Google now is just an endless array of experiments in many sectors.

One of Google’s engineers quite a while back stated they never wanted webmasters to become dependant on earning a living with Google results. Even though he never said it I believe “it goes without saying” the one true exception was them.

[kevsh]

>>>
Even though he never said it I believe “it goes without saying” the one true exception was them.
>>>

Yes, and technically, they should be hit with the "950" as well (assuming dup. content is one of the factors or a major factor in the algo). After all, their entire index is essentially scraped and although, realistically, you can't get their service - in terms of it's breadth - anywhere else, in machine/algo-speak, they should be flagged too for having "nothing original of value).

(Obviously, my message should be taken tongue-in-cheek :))

[petehall]

Anyone noticing further changes?

[trinorthlighting]

Yes, our sites our going up in the serps for the keywords and we are seeing affiliate sites in our sector continue to get hit hard.

[ramachandra]

Not noticing any changes in SERPs for my sites, still our site is ranking with the same position what we were since 4 weeks.

[mattg3]

Still two massively diverging result sets floating about, one has 1/3 more pages indexed. Other server that got hit in December seems o tentatively rising again.

[itloc]

absolutely no change here ... still at 1/10 of normal google traffic...

[mattg3]

absolutely no change here ... still at 1/10 of normal google traffic...

The site with the funny result sets does not change in traffic, this might be cause they switch so fast, it's not really noticable as it averages out during a day.

[itloc]

Interestin change - however I can't say that it wasn't like that before:

Most of the keywords I am ranking today have a cache date which is at least from the 25th...

itloc

[itloc]

and one more:

there is one datacenter which has constantly other results for me then all the others: 66.249.89.104

itloc

[madmatt69]

Still in the crapper.

Traffic seemed to go up slightly last night, but this morning the trend has definitely not continued.

[itloc]

one more thing that looks promising:

checked my main keywords today - there is no change in traffic. however, all my best going pages (before dec 17th.) have now cachedates which are at least from the 27th of january.

also, it seems they climb up in the dc's for their keywords. no big jumps here, just 4 - 8 steps (142 from 150 and the like).

it *could* be that there is something coming up. i dare to say it will - but for sure there is a certain smell in the air...

regards

itloc

(hope someone can backup that)

[shogun_ro]

Same in my case.
One day is climbing,next day is back.

[calumniate]

just noticed that news.google.com (err.. .ca) has tanked this morning.. happy february 1st everybody!

[mattg3]

just noticed that news.google.com (err.. .ca) has tanked this morning.. happy february 1st everybody!

The failure rate has definitly increased in Google Inc. I had sitemaps video stats, gmail and so on failing just recently.

[asiaseo]

A large number of our pages have gone supplemental, we are getting more and more hits from forums than we ever had before, perhaps people are changing the way they search for specific information.
News is not working this side of the world either.

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[edited by: tedster at 6:42 pm (utc) on Feb. 1, 2007]