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I have a few terms left in google that rank well, I wanted to find out why they still ranked well. Here is my conclusion so far,
using a site:#*$!x (keyword here), I search for keywords that used to ranked well in google.
Some keywords pull up as much as 15,000 pages, some 11,000+
For keywords on MY site that was UNDER 400 result or so (not a few thousand), the results REMAINED in Google ranking, top 10 or so.
For internal searches on keywords with more than a few hundred, it dropped off the chart.
I think I am being penalized for heavy internal linking or keyword usage on my pages, but I am not sure how to overcome this since I have a large site and I am using product titles to navigate
home : department : Product a:
and product b would be
home : Department : Product B
Now if you multiply this by a couple thousand products, you can see why there will be a lot of links to any particular keyword and I think I am being penalized for it.
IS google tell us to kill good navigation to get ranked
Basically, all the pages will be
home : Department
and NOTHING ELSE
I guess they are trying to get rid of affiliate farms, but legitimate sites are getting penalized.
[edited by: tedster at 9:13 am (utc) on Jan. 22, 2007]
I have a 10 year old site. Is not a cookie cutter site. It is all unique as to the content, most of the product numbers, i hand edit the databases so the product descriptions are unique, i do not serve adsense, i do not have mirror domains and try to make each of out 10,000 pages different. I was even reviewed by the panel of search engine engineers including matt and tim. I had good positive feedback. So I dont understand. Not every section is affected on my site, just most of it :-) some sections i still hold #1 position, others are gone. But i know it is a penalty. Search for "Blue Widgets" and i am not found. Search for my trademark with it and you would think that would be a unique search for my site, but "trademark blue widgets" is found in position #104, behind all of the sites that link to me that way, behind scraper and hijacked sites as well. This is NOT a normal adjustment. If it were a normal shift and i would still rank very well with my trademark usage. It is a penalty somehow.
Im just hoping matt gets back from his vacation and helps us solve this mystery soon.
Thatís what you quickly learn with many of these directories. Iíve seen a few that will create as many as eight competing Adsense pages from a simple submission. A lot of the pages are hidden and not directly accessible with the search box of the directory. Most will remove your listing quickly if you request it. They donít want to loose that Adsense income. After that they usually disappear in a week or less from Google.
This site has seen much improvement over last couple of days - No content, just an image of a Turkish guy on the main page and notation that they are the "Turkish Cyber Army"
Weirdly, CTR and eCPM is really down. But I guess that just means whatever articles rank are the low paying ones.
I've got a UK site also and don't see any changes there either but it's probably what i have posted about here before that Google do updates by "theme" so if Auto/Cars is the first ones to disappear then they are usually the first ones to regain.
Everytime I checked the DCs, they showed other results:
1st check: #3 112 DCs, #21 256 DCs
2nd check: #3 128 DCs, #21 239 DCs
3dr check: #3 109 DCs, #21 259 DCs
Now all DCs show my site at place 18. That`s absolutely rubbish, my site is one of the strongest and best about that topic. I understand people in Germany saying that they will start spamming, because otherwise they will loose their job or company.
If this is what it's going to be like, then Internet is dead and you might as well get a stupid blog and write about your life that nobody's interested in and get 1-2 visitors a month except for your closest friends.