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PageRank Update - Jan 2007

   
2:48 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google PageRank appears to be changing - has anyone noticed their Google PageRank changing? For the last 2 days my PageRank appears to be dropping by 1 but then at other times, it appears as the same as it's been for the past 2 months.

I've checked other places and they say the old PageRank but maybe we're on the verge of another PageRank change?

Anyone notice this?

11:03 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have had a page rank drop but again as many of you have posted position has not changes as well as the number of backlinks registered.

If this is a glitch or a temporary thing until the update is over then how long would it be before it is fixed?

Wht has changed this time which has brought down not just normal but high profile sites too?

12:14 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I look after a few sites and have noticed the sites which have dropped to pr0 are only the ones which made a significant pr gains on the last update. I haven't seen a drop for a site which did not gain last time. Sites which did not gain pr on the last update seem unaffected. Anyone else noticed this?
12:20 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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> the ones which made a significant pr gains on the last update

Not exactly.

Some sites that I monitor in fact lost 1 point PR in the last updates or gained 1 point; other just mainained the same PR...

I think that at this time PR bar is not stable...

Here in italy, checking www.google.it it shows PR 0 in some datacenters..

[livepr.raketforskning.com...]

12:55 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to hear about woes. 2 of my sites went to PR 6 from 5.
1:14 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Amyone seeing many site PR0 but still ranking? I do.
1:20 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I look after a few sites and have noticed the sites which have dropped to pr0 are only the ones which made a significant pr gains on the last update.

This is possible.

Mine went 5 to 6 last time...

Another thing: listed backlinks are up (1/4) this time maybe another consideration.

1:32 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I do not see any change in PR
I noticed an increased listing on the link: command
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1:53 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yea, ours went from 4 to 0 but we are still getting a ton of google traffic. Has to be a glitch!
1:58 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Does everybody think it is a temporary glitch during a PR update? or should I jump out a window?

I'm jumping out the window... wanna join?
2:00 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My sub directory "free web directory" - a recip links dir is still strangely zero'd - although the internal pages of the directory have a PR 2.

Are they cracking down on directories?

EDIT ***SORRY! All directory pages have been zero'd.

Perhaps to stop people selling this kind of thing?

Although i am still seeing two different results (at least) using seo tools.

[edited by: sandpetra at 2:20 pm (utc) on Jan. 11, 2007]

2:02 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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For guys who has their sites PR0, there is nothing to worry about. My PR8 site went PR0 as well but as long as I see a good increase in backlinks in google using the link: command, I am more than sure that this is a glitch. Needless to mention that traffic has never got affected with the TLPR update.

Also, another site of mine was PR5 and has a subpage of PR6. When I checked, I found out that things are the same. But then again checking backlinks for this site I saw very strong backlinks that has to raise this site PR to atleast PR7.

Finally, a third site has its PR unchanged but got its inner pages PR, which wasn't the case before the update. Amazingly, some of the inner pages still has PR0 although very deep pages has PR4-5.

I think the backlinks update is stable somehow now in google datacenters. But it's obviously that the snapshot of the toolbar has a glitch.

3:52 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Wow, Even digg has a pr of zero!
3:56 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Back and forth on the toolbar all afternoon in the uk.
4:15 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Holy Hell Batman! Went from PR 4 to PR 0 on the toolbar somebody please tell me this is just a glitch and things are not settled yet on the datacenters...
4:27 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm sure this is a glith - <url edited> is PR0 at the moment - if you read Matt's blog you'll see why I mention this as an example.

<Note: the edited url pointed to the site of a new Google employee's famous father>

[edited by: tedster at 6:35 pm (utc) on Jan. 12, 2007]

4:43 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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even myspace does have pr0 now. this is a weird pr update. my inner pages has a pr4 but in the homepage its none, (applies for all of my sites) whats happening to google now?
4:52 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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There is something going on... our homepage went from 4 down to a 3. Highest ranked page last week (with a 5) now showing a 0.

This is very nearly the same thing that happened last year with bigdaddy. (cringing at the thought)

I just dont understand how our site (now 10 years old) solid natural backlinks, good traffic and unique content keeps getting the axe by google. We are completely whitehat we dont try to do SEO, but we do make it easy for our customers to find what they are looking for.

I'd sworn to myself I wouldn't look at PR after the bs that went on last year, but it so severly impacted business last year I nearly lost my job.

God how I wish google had a service (paid or not) where you could have someone manually take a look and evaluate your site rather than relying on programming of their algo to decide who stays and who goes.

4:54 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We are at a PR0 as well (our entire freakin site), but we still show well for our search terms and we show well for backlinks. Our site: command for our site shows good as well.

We did, however, recently change our entire site using a CMS and applied the appropriate 301 re-directs to pick up the transferred PR. When I first noticed the white bar, I immediately came here because I figured if anyone else was talking about it, then it might not be too big of a problem.

Google has a big hand, but I bet it would be hard for them to spank all of us at the exact same time :)

I will watch with cautious optimism as this plays out.

5:05 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I all,
went from pr 5 to 0. It has been like that for the whole afternoon, now I'm back to pr 5. I suggest you not to worry, just wait.
5:15 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I presume the posts in this thread are referring to toolbar PR, which we know is not actual PR and probably doesn't mean very much, especially for pages less than 6 months old.
5:28 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"which we know is not actual PR and probably doesn't mean very much"

I found that TBPR was of little or no help in guiding SEO decisions, long ago. My position on the SERPs and the volume of traffic to my pages bears no relationship to the value of my TBPR.

When I see so many posts to a thread like this one, I do begin to wonder...What is it that attracts so much attention to TBPR? Maybe I am missing something here?

5:53 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My two and a half year old site's PR went down to zero while the trafic it's getting from Google seems to be normal. I am not alone I believe.. many webmasters at Shawn's Digital Point forums are going through the same.

[edited by: Endurer at 5:53 pm (utc) on Jan. 11, 2007]

6:01 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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When I see so many posts to a thread like this one, I do begin to wonder...What is it that attracts so much attention to TBPR? Maybe I am missing something here?

It's not unusual for people to want feedback. What;'s really interesting is the lack of understanding in comments like:

My TBPR is 0 but my rankings haven't changed so it must be a glitch.

TBPR updates, to my memory, have never had an effect on rankings. PR is updated all the time and this is just an indication of what PR was for a single moment back who knows when. Sort of interesting but of little use to people trying to figure anything out about current rankings.

6:02 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The PR displayed in the google toolbar means almost nothing these days, it always lags the real PR by 3-4 months. If you really had a PR of 0 you'd have noticed it back then, not now.

Real PR is updated constantly, as are the SERPS.

6:11 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I thought so and yet when I ping toolbarquerries it still shows the old IP.

This should allow you to use the new IP in your hosts file:

ipconfig /flushdns

6:50 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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something's cooking in SERPS right now ,check your KW's
6:54 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I must be off here. None of my PR has been updated on main page or internal pages. Even pages added months ago.
7:13 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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When I see so many posts to a thread like this one, I do begin to wonder...What is it that attracts so much attention to TBPR? Maybe I am missing something here?

No you are missing nothing, because you indeed came and posted as well :)

I think the pr0 thing is a glitch for what it is worth and is only showing on certain DC's. Start worrying when your referrals and traffic from Google stop, otherwise its business as usual.

7:36 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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On 1/11/07 all of my pages dropped from 5-6 to 0.
7:53 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Most of my sites are PR0 right now; I'm chalking it up to some updates and I'm reasonably sure that'll even out over the next few days. I'm more concerned about a few sites where significant numbers of pages (including the home pages) have completely left the index. I hope that evens out over the next few days too.
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