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PageRank Update - Jan 2007

   
2:48 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google PageRank appears to be changing - has anyone noticed their Google PageRank changing? For the last 2 days my PageRank appears to be dropping by 1 but then at other times, it appears as the same as it's been for the past 2 months.

I've checked other places and they say the old PageRank but maybe we're on the verge of another PageRank change?

Anyone notice this?

3:18 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I would like to hear from Matt Cutts or someone at Google who could confirm this was a dance or update of some kind.
3:28 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing our pr dance from 4 to 0 as well.

We have seen a huge push up in the serps since November and are ranking number one in a lot of keywords and have a bookmark rate of over 40%. Who knows...

3:30 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We can get a sense of why some "official word" is not usually heard around PR updates. This entry in Matt Cutts' blog is from last October, right when the last Toolbar PR export happened.

I'm not sure if I've given the official word on a PageRank export before. It's not a big event here at Google. Frankly, I didn't even know we'd done our 3-4 month-ish push of this data. When I saw people talking about it online, I went to check and see whether it was a real push or not.

[mattcutts.com...]

3:31 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Same here. I am seeing a lot of PR7 and PR6 sites show PR0 on toolbarqueries.google.com. And during this period, more and more DCs are showing PR0 for these sites.

Edit: I also noticed that Matt Cutts' blog has PR0 on this DC 66.102.7.104

[edited by: NoPlaceLikeHome at 3:35 am (utc) on Jan. 11, 2007]

3:45 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We have had some increase in PR on internal pages - also backlinks are way up. Looks like good news so far....
5:39 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Matt Cutts just made a great post on his blog that will help clear up some issues on what's going on right now and about supplementals.
5:44 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We've got a site that's been PR 5 for years and is suddenly showing PR 0. Is this going to stick or is the PR update not finished and it may revert back?
5:54 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, Matt's post is helpful.

I notice a bunch of high profile directories have lost their PR.

5:57 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I've been checking... a lot of established sites are showing zero too... including Amazon (using a datacenter rank checking tool)

So... mebbe :

- those of us who have been zeroed are supposed to have achieved Nirvana?
- it's automatic promotion past PR9!
- google finally decided to settle the "is PR important?" question by zeroing everybody!

5:58 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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webstuck, I haven't seen a PR rollback in a current update. If you lost your PR in this update, I am afraid you will have to wait until the next update.
6:06 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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andrewshim, Amazon has a PR of 9.
6:15 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Really Stunning!
One of the sites I used to work on has plunged from a PR7 to PR0.
6:17 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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myspace.com: pr0
blogger.com: pr0
6:28 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I notice a bunch of high profile directories have lost their PR.

It doesn't seem like this is settled.

I read Matt Cutt's blog and it did not make a big deal out of this "toolbar update" but it sure seems like something more going on to me...

6:29 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Myspace - 7
Blogger - 10

Try without www.

6:30 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I noticed tonight I went from PR6 to PR0, so I figured it was time to check in with webmasterworld

some of my industry also dropped to PR0, but many stayed at 5 and 6 on all datacenters.

Does everybody think it is a temporary glitch during a PR update? or should I jump out a window?

6:41 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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andrewshim, Amazon has a PR of 9.

LOL! I know. I used an online rank checking tool for multiple dcs. Searching random keywords, many long established sites are coming up zero. In the instance that I mentioned, Amazon DID come up zero and visiting their site (again - at that instance) it WAS zero.

7:19 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Matt Cutt's post was very informative to say the least. He has actually confirmed now that PR is causing supplemental! Also he has confirmed that PR doesn't effect your rankings! Also he has confirmed that data pushes are happening every 1-2 days! HELLO and thank you Mr. Cutts! Sure settles the WTH is going on madness! :>
7:34 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Appears to be a collapse of Google's ability to push new pagerank. Pages from late November don't get any; the obvious errors of pages having lower PR than their child pages with no links from anywhere else continue; etc.
7:47 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Matt says a quarterly-ish data push has resulted in this & it wont affect the SERP's.
7:49 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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> Same here. I am seeing a lot of PR7 and PR6 sites show PR0 on
> toolbarqueries.google.com. And during this period, more and more DCs
> are showing PR0 for these sites.

Same here: excellent whitehat sites used to have PR 7 show now 0 without any reason! These are sites that have only good content, fresh content, and that get links in a natural way ( without any link campaign...).

Ranking is the same, the link command or the site command show the same; no supplemental etc.

I think ( I hope ) that is only a temporary glitch....

New sites launched in October-november show page rank...

9:13 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hmm my site is in the software industry and I think the secod after download.com

Now more and more DC are showing PR0 (it was PR7 for a long time) for me and download.com

I did get only a little sleep last night for this :(

I hope for a PR 8 , but when?

10:08 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Interestingly, seeing no change in 4 v.old PR6 site's homepages but a huge variation (PR0 up to PR5/6) for major internal landing pages. The pattern is the same across all 4 sites.

Seems to be an all or nothing rank change.

10:16 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Has to be a glitch.

I'd say close to 50% of sites now have a PR0.

10:31 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Dang Google... It's enough to drive a man to drinking. I'm showing PR0 as well on a well-established pure-white hat site that showed PR5 for at least the past year.
10:33 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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...mine included!

Got up this morning only to see the white dread.

DIDNT NEED COFFEE TO WAKE ME UP!

10:37 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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can understand the on and off, since thats typical... but why should inner pages, actually all pages except the main domain shud show the PR and not itself?
10:38 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The site was PR 6.

Listed backlinks are showing around a 1/4 increase. No change in number one position.

I pray this is a glitch...

10:45 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Course it's a glitch.

Relax... have that coffee and stop worrying :-)

10:50 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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hooray, one of my sites has finally moved its PR from 3 to 4. I also notice many changes in insite pages.Hope this all stays. And yes many more backlinks detected.Finally
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