Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Irrational use of CSS, I guess most people here simply don't know what CSS really is. For them, this is what is refered to:
text-indent:-1000px
text-indent: 1500px
position:absolute;
left:2000px
top:-1000px
left:-3000px
bottom:1000px
positioning elements on top of each other to hide text
applying near full or full opacities to text elements
Positioning an iframe over a div then putting text in the div
Let's see, what else, that's the first stuff that comes to mind.
Leosghost, post 680, after all your most kind admonitions to this bored board, here you go, and ask the same? What can it be? Not that I didn't enjoy the posting, don't get me wrong, worth thinking about as a more general rule re how to spend seo time.
And to those who took offense: are you telling me that you actually think reading 3000 posts that have essentially either the same or no meaningful content is a good way to spend your lives and time?
Most of this is garbage but occassionally a member comes up with something worthwhile - like your div and iframe positioning spam explanation. Thanks never thought it and will never use it!
But as you can see, it's pretty pointless.
The question is why waste your time in this way? What's the point? It doesn't do the posters any good at all, and it doesn't do the people reading these threads any good at all. All it achieves is making it harder to figure out what the update actually is doing, and how it's doing it. Which is theoretically the point of an update thread. Or should be.
For example, if you cut through all the garbage postings, you will end up with basically the conclusions that giggle pointed a link to. Which is where you want to be, you want to have some idea of what's actually happening. The more useless postings there are, the harder it is to achieve that desired result.
Any thoughts or advice?
Starting with J1, we started to see problems with multiple key words. Before J1, multiple key word phrases could easily target a brand name for a product. Now, it's bizarre: A multi word brand name search with the word "supreme" results have the #1 result being some case in the Supreme Court. HUH? I just don't see how that can happen unless the word supreme automatically maps everything to supreme court and cases there-in.
Also, it's a "kiss of death" under Jx to have a product name with a region or city attached.. e.g. anything with the word Phoenix (meaning the bird or rising from the ashes concept). Everything under the sun in Phoenix will be shown before your product.
Maybe some filters or algo components are turned off now, but other than that, something is amuk with Google.. maybe we should call this update the "Lost Mojo"
Look forward to hearing if others are see the same with Jx and its impact on product / brand names.
PS.. was Jagger supposed to implement new semantic filters? I thought it was mostly a DB clean up, spam buster release.
[edited by: arnarn at 11:05 pm (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
The algorithm bites back ... :D
I seriously wonder when wikipedia has reached critical mass and collapes in itself...
Meanwhile .. if you type definition:bla into Google you get answers.coms Wikiclon ... always on the first position.
Hmmm logic?
I like some of the other serps, the ones where they show because there is one and only one link to them that happens to be one of the keywords searched for.
Do it "kw1 kw2" and none of the sites on the first page are same as when the "s aren't there.
I always loved those ones especialy if the cache copy was of a 404 page and the current #1 no longer returned a response.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=6m&size=large&compare_sites=&y=r&url=www.yahoo.comNo, no no. LOOK at the graphs. See how they dip at the same time as the Jagger rollouts...[alexa.com...]
search.yahoo.com - 7%
wots your point?