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These two sites haven't wether the same IP-adress, nor the same class-c.net. One of my link partners, who is an ODP editor, appears in this list as 'dmoz.org/profiles/hisnick.html'? These two sites are not listed in DMOZ anyway, so what?
Funny, the site from who I link to doesn't seem to be related...
What will this mean for future links exchange? If I link to a panlized site and G thinks it's related to mine?
Does anybody see something like this?
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Notice those webmasterworld pages that are supplemental have caches, and Brett is rather enthusiastic about preventing WebmasterWorld pages from being cached. Another bit of strangeness.
This update has been very good to our 4 mega authority sites and very bad to our 20 smaller more niche type sites.
That's the one overriding trend I see. This update is about rewarding sheer size and content be damned.
This update is about rewarding sheer size and content be damned.
>>Notice those webmasterworld pages that are supplemental have caches, and Brett is rather enthusiastic about preventing WebmasterWorld pages from being cached. Another bit of strangeness. <<
Would you be kind to tell us, why those pages went supplementals. They are unique contents and not duplicates at all. And I can't imagine that somebody else has copied the said pages and added them to his/her site so that Google think that WebmasterWorld pages are the copies and not the original ones.
I sure hope so since I don't run a toolbar.
That is one thing I can cross off my list ;-).
but in this case it's easy. Notice the format of those URLs that are supplememtal. Webmasterworld allows people to show 10, 15, 20 or 30 messages per page. Obviously if at least two of those four are crawled, there would be a considerable amount of duplication, especially for the 15 message view which would be similar to both the 10 and 20.
Notice webmasterworld.com/forum30/29782-1-15.htm is supplemental, while webmasterworld.com/forum30/29782-1-10.htm and webmasterworld.com/forum30/29782-1-20.htm each have (different) pagerank.
This says a lot. It says that web surfers are not finding what they are looking for on Google in the post-Jagger results, so they are switching to Yahoo to see what comes up there. I find myself doing this more and more often lately too. If I don't like what comes up on Google, Yahoo is my next stop.
Once people start switching their default home page to Yahoo, look out. Could Jagger be the dagger in Google's back?
makoi - I have a simple rule, NEVER get involved with anything related to your site and a SE, like removal tool, hosting, domain, sitemap ..., not because those are bad service, but I dont think its wise as search engines also dont tell how to rank.
this-that
But still rank horribly for the term
this that
I do use hyphens in my URLs but I would think the results would be very much the same.
Obviously you and Dayo_UK are onto something. As GG mentioned, the best set of results is yet to come.
Not all the way back. I was page 2 for most of my keyword phrases, disappeared on the update, reappeared page 20, and slowly made my way up to page 8 currently.
I haven't changed anything of note.
However, this afternoon, I was back to page 12.
from some reason, google has dropped most of my pages in the past week or so. Gbot visits daily (200+ visits) but only really gets a few pages. It checks the rest by getting the gzipped version (about 7K instead of the around 30K normal size). There is NO dupe issue, and all the content was entered by hand (on a database), and pages are about 60% - 65% similar (much less than many ranking #1 right now).
Inside pages are linked very well, and most have a PR3
has anyone come back since the October 7-8th update?
We did not experience any changes on that date, for us it was Sunday October 16th when things changed dramatically. Once those new results appeared, we have not seen anything change other than very minor fluctuations. The talk is the second phase is coming up, but so far for us it’s the same as the 16th.
As far as the results themselves, I certainly don’t mean to be critical of the Google master plan, (and I have every confidence there is one!) the results right now are a bit bizarre, not what I would describe as any sort of an improvement. There have been past updates that were a bit painful, but you could objectively step back and say with some degree of confidence it was an overall improvement in what the user experiences. What you see right now, personally I just don’t really get it, (but perhaps I’m missing something).
I ask because I need to rename a number of pages and I would like to do it just before a PR update so that there is minimim downtime (from my pages going to PR 0 after the name change).
Thanks for any estimates,
Doug Stewart
I missed that one.
It's the one about a week ago that has killed us.
Being completely objective, could this update seriously actually stick?
Most things are possible. Too early to tell what is what.
It's back, seems like a DNS problem.
[edited by: BillyS at 12:01 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
Being completely objective, could this update seriously actually stick?
Most likely in some form, what you see will stick. I don’t recall an update that resulted in a full and total retreat. Whatever phase two, and three bring, it’s going to be along these lines, not something radically different.
With that said, I remember Florida, so many of our sites we couldn’t even find, never mind ranking for anything. Eventually almost all came back, took a long time, but they did in fact recover. As long as your site has not been technically penalized, the odds are very good you will return. (Doesn’t solve today’s traffic problem, but the point is don’t scrap the site and chase a radical solution)
SERPS show these two types of urls (In serps view of listings)www.test.com/testing/test-test.html
www.test.com/ testing/testing.htmlWhy is there a space in the url sometimes and sometimes not?
The spaces are added so that the URL will wrap and look okay when displayed.
-- Roger
I looked at the logs...I guess it could've been the one on the 3rd or so, as it takes a while to propagate to all DCs.
This week I did change a few things, mostly on the conservative side (made even whiter hat onpage).
Whether it sticks or not, you never know; it may stick for months too. It has happened before
i'have really enjoyed the forum especially about 'bacon polenta'?) not a bad dish actually ...
does anyone disagree with the notion that this update is heavily skewed in favor of content sites vs e-commerce driven?
top ten serps are almost always review sites when they are not PR 7 + ...
[edited by: jatar_k at 8:36 pm (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
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I've got a few sites up, a few sites down, but more where I can say AHA! This site went down, and it differs from these others sites in this or that way.
Very frustrating. I have my ideas, but nothing which is totlaly concrete.
