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Very hard to tell - but what I was seeing develop out of the first stage certainly does not look like it has hit that DC.
Time will tell - for me when people first started noticing changes on 184.108.40.206 - they are nothing like what was displayed a few days after first noticed.
Matt Cutts posted how to send feedback on Jagger1 at [mattcutts.com...]
If you're looking at 66.102.9.x and have new feedback on what you see there (whether it be spam or just indexing related), please use the same mechanism as before, except use the keyword Jagger2. I believe that our webspam team has taken a first pass through the Jagger1 feedback and acted on a majority of the spam reports. The quality team may wait until Jagger3 is visible somewhere before delving into the non-spam index feedback.
If things stay on the same schedule (which I can't promise, but I'll keep you posted if I learn more), Jagger3 might be visible at one data center next week. Folks should have several weeks to give us feedback on Jagger3 as it gradually becomes more visible at more data centers.
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 8:53 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
This happened back in May. Completely kicked out from fantastic search positions. Clean, clean, clean.
Wrote to Google. First response, I said that wasn't good enough and asked to take a look, 2nd response was a bit more interesting.
Came back a month later in Mid-June. 1 month gone. 1 month income gone. 1 month wasted. The biggest month of the year.
Now everytime there is an update, am I going to go through the same thing? Getting nailed for some obscure reason, write to Google repeatedly and ask what's up? Every update before May, ran smoothly, no affect really if not an improvement in results.
How does a site increase PR, go from position 2 to 21, on all other results, many of which were 1st page for the last 4 years, go to 50+?
Really? What's up?
Anyway you can tell what stage 2 is aimed at - not noticing anything on Canonical issues - so cant see hardly any difference in the serps I monitor - stage 1 seemed to have a bit of that.
Just new spam filters etc?
Added - Ok seen MC blog post too. - Yes, intresting the point that it will take a couple of days for the changes to be visible on the dc 220.127.116.11 - so bit early perhaps for panic/feedback and jumping out of windows.
Intresting - so when GG/MC talk about flux - sometimes it means flux on the DC rather than flux between the dcs?
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 9:02 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
McMohan, good eyes in spotting some changes at 18.104.22.168.
Thanks GG :) Would you suggest we wait until Jagger3 rolls out before reporting on spam, penalties etc? Since Jagger3 may address problems we are facing after Jagger1 & 2, we may not have a reason to send feedbacks after Jagger3 settles.
[edited by: McMohan at 9:03 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
Dayo - about canocial issue I still dont see any changes, but ok it should maybe happen in part 3, one thing I will say it not a 100% this is your problem it could also be scrapers that have a to large copy of your pages and then you are filtered or a still active 302 link, but maybe that will also get fixed in part 3.
about spam 22.214.171.124 I dont see that huge different than was usualy is in the serps and if you take a look at yahoo, you will huge amount of scrapers on page 2... on a search, thats not the case on google.
[edited by: zeus at 9:10 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
If you're still around, please, please can you put me out of my misery (I'm begging). A 'related:' search on any page on my site now returns 'no matching documents' when it has worked for over 4 years? Plus many of my pages have gone supplemental (url only) for no apparent reason. It's a clean site, but is this a penalty or bad crawl?
(And of course basically no improvement in terms of lost sites. Just saw the GG post below, so perhaps this part shouldn't be a concern.)
Tough being an optimist these days...
[edited by: steveb at 9:18 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
Well I am not going to really comment on the DC until a day or two - as per MC and GG indication that the DC may be in flux for a while.
Re: Lost sites.
Hopefully Stage 3 - otherwise end of Webmastering for me (probably) :(
I am 99.99% sure it is Canonical url problem - but the issues are probably all linked together. And whatever name you call it I think Google now have an idea what is at least being talked about.
Just saw GG post too ;) - lol we are an impatient lot.
I now looked through some of the link backs, I see some of the added links are scrapers, thats sad.
[edited by: zeus at 9:28 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]