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Datacenter Watch: 2006-07-26

         

RichTC

10:59 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

what i notice is that the Google data centre that serves me in the UK by typing in Google.co.uk is 66.102.9.104 and i see various serps results

Yet, if i type into the browser 66.102.9.104 i get different results why is this?

[edited by: tedster at 10:37 pm (utc) on July 28, 2006]

zeus

1:29 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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its getting on my nervs that a site which has been through google hell becasue of there 302 bug, dossent even get spidered and the whole site is supp, not the homepage.

Also another site which has had some big changes dont get index with the changes, google still show the old pages, but MSN and yahoo after a week the whole redesigned site was indexed.

Also this back and forth with old results then new.

znakedwrx

2:09 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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By my opinion nothing big will happen until google doesn't drop out supplementals from 2005.

Few days ago when Google tried to clear up their index and supplementals from 2005 where gone, I could see all my sites rank much better. As soon as the supplementals from 2005 are back in index my sites got back the same rankings as before.

colin_h

4:25 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)



My bet is for another big Bank Holiday change and in the UK that's only 11 or so days away. Fingers crossed that they finally come to their senses ... but don't hold your breath.

All the Best

Col :-)

rden17

4:56 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Few days ago when Google tried to clear up their index and supplementals from 2005 where gone, I could see all my sites rank much better. As soon as the supplementals from 2005 are back in index my sites got back the same rankings as before.

Exact same situation with my sites. sites popped back in index, traffic blossomed. sites popped back out of index, traffic gone.

this happened in July and now again this month. I'm starting to try some different things, linking to deep pages that dropped out from more sites. so far it has helped with a couple of pages, waiting a few days to see how it works out with others.

I hope google straightens things out again and can stay consistent for more than a week with decent index. Like others, MSN (and Yahoo to some extent) seem to be handling things without any problem. My traffic has picked up quite a bit lately with MSN

asiaseo

8:55 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have just searched in Asia on the .com and got some updated very poor results, greatly changed from just a few hours ago, then tried .ca and they were as they were earlier today, also then tried .co.uk and they were the same as yesterday and from our side not too bad, however, all were showing the same data center / centre 72.14......

Why would these show same data center but the results differ?

asiaseo

9:27 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now there are no ads at all, the right hand side is blank, no ads anywhere, I think I remember something about this once before, can anyone shed any light about very different ( and in my opinion very poor ) results, different results yet same data center / centre, and also now the ads gone too?

reseller

10:17 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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asiaseo

I see plenty of AdWords on 72.14.....

asiaseo

10:23 pm on Aug 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi reseller

I am seeing them when I try .co.uk or .com.au, .com.sg but when I go to the straight .com ( all these showing identical data center ) no ads and very different results.

I realise something 'geographic' could be at play but do 'same data centers' show up different results?
I have paused to check, still no ads on the .com on that same data center, weird!

Bewenched

12:12 am on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just worry that this is going to be a continuing thing with google.

It's almost as if they are leveling the playing field by rotating content in and out.

steveb

10:44 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So it appears Google has failed again to update its Supplemental listings at all. Listings back to December 2004 still there on google.com and every datacenter I've checked.

Maybe, possibly, hopefully they are finally wising up down at the plex to the cancer they have on their hands.

g1smd

10:53 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For the SERPS of site:domain.com searches that were cleaned of Supplemental Results (dating back to 2004 January) just a few months ago, I do not see any of those old results returning.

Maybe these are new sites(*), or new pages(*), that are dredging up ancient Supplemental data for the first time?

(*) I don't mean that the sites themselves are new sites, just that these sites are experiencing Supplemental as a new effect for them.

I still don't see any Supplemental Results dated older than (dated before) 2005 June.

steveb

11:18 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's the same as before, back to December 2004 for hyphenated sites, June 2005 for non-hyphenated sites. Nothing has been removed this month, though maybe some newer ones have been added. Note to the plex, June 2005 is pathetic, but I'm really sick of these 2004 ones...

montefin

11:42 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Supplementals again back to Jul 20, 2005 19:47:35 GMT here, despite brief jog forward (Apr - May, 2006) last week followed by this current relapse a day later.

Atomic

12:52 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Supplemental disgruntlement must have triggered something because the more recent dates are coming back. Seeing them on 64.233.187.104

[edited by: Atomic at 12:53 am (utc) on Aug. 17, 2006]

znakedwrx

2:22 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now on 64.233.187.104, when i do site:www.mysite.com i get list of "Supplemental Result" ONLY! When you click on chached - cache does not exist! Also the number of supplemental results is reduced, but where are my "normal" pages?

When i do site:www.mysite.com keyword - web pages will show and no supplemental results :)

It seems that google has modified "site:" command to list supplemental results only.

steveb

2:38 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Heh, I wish I could get them to do other stuff that quickly...

Yes, it looks like another stab at updating Supplementals on 64.233.187.104 and elsewhere.

RobinK

2:52 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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seeing the same thing here. Hope they get them out and all the pages back in real soon.

F_Rose

3:21 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone,

Saw the same thing before, are you still seeing it?

To me everything went back to the way it was..

indias next no1

3:54 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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June 27?

from last night my keywords are not on the top positions. I am getting search results that is similar to June 27 2006 & July 27 2006 period . most of my keywords are dropped from listings. utlimately low traffic .

Whether it will come to normal, or this situation will continue?

pixellion

7:01 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Looks like my site is now finally visible after almost 2 months! Pages have all gone supplemental and the cache date shows July 6, 06 and for some June 15th, 06. I'm quite delighted that it has finally started to show. The site was completely invisible on all DCs while still maintaining a PR. My site is visible with the site: command on the following DCs:

72.14.203.104
72.14.207.104

I definitely see light at the end of the tunnel. Looks like we'll have to wait another couple of months to finally see the result. Let's see what happens now...

toothake

7:32 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just a bitter LOL, my flag ship site just went back to the drain once again ,comant site:mysite.com shows my home page after 200 pages .....
Is that the end of the summer new update as GG mention a few weeks ago?

g1smd

9:07 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I take "end of Summer" to mean the end of September, maybe into October.

Nick0r

9:16 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Finally!

Today my 'dropped pages' that were nuked out of the SERPs and placed in last position (1000) in the site: command have returned!

g1smd

9:19 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How about saying which DC that is on, or is it on all?

Google has 41 datacentres; and a mix of results across them...

classifieds

9:52 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sssiiiigggghhhh. . . .

One of my hobby sites just went 100% supplemental and the HP doesn't show.

The site has about 10k pages and has whethered the storm for the last year ok. Now the DCs are showing anywhere from 900 to 3000 pages.

The aggrivating thing is that it's a simple Joomla site covering local news for a small rural county - not a lot of competition and no other source of content on the net. Even the write-up from last week on the local high school wrestling team is supplemental.

No BH SEO.
No canonical issues.
No query string URLs.
Lots of natural links from .edu's, .gov's and .com's.
No recips but a few on topic links out to reference sites.

It will be interesting to see if there is a drop in G referrals.

montefin

10:45 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The end of Summer is September 22nd.

Google spokespeople have made no secret about reserving deep tinkering for Summer in the northern hemisphere, saying it's a netwide downtime during which change will cause the least overall disruption.

Just in case they're not watching the calendar, I repeat: the end of Summer is September 22nd.

36 days and counting.

g1smd

12:37 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few months ago, Google cleaned up all the pre-2005 June cached Supplemental Results that I was watching at that time.

They left behind a number of newer, or refreshed, Supplemental Results - for pages recently edited with different information: the Supplemental Result shows up for the old content that used to be on the page.

On gfe-eh.google.com I see that those left-over results have now also been cleaned up sometime in very recent days.

Atomic

7:10 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just in case they're not watching the calendar, I repeat: the end of Summer is September 22nd.

My money would be on labor day weekend. A great time to do those big jobs.

Abigail

7:38 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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a few hours ago, almost all my pages showed up in the page count - across the board. right now my entire site is disappearing in its entirety from every data centre - almost by the minute. please pass the valium!

reseller

8:56 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good evening Folks

I see you discussing GG's "the end of summer" hint [webmasterworld.com]. No doubt that GG was refering to end of September 2006.

However, there is one very interesting question left to be discussed

What did GG mean by:

"when many data centers would have some more changes"?

Was he talking about a possible update?

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#:3044252 12:12 am on Aug 13, 2006 (utc 0)

reseller, getting a new set of PR/BL out hasn't been a high priority, and I wouldn't expect it to be for a while.

When referring to the end of summer when many data centers would have some more changes, that's the true end o' summer, around the autumnal equinox, i.e. roughly the end of this quarter. I haven't heard much new about the 72.#*$! data center with its infrastructure, but I'll ask.
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