Datacenter Watch: 2006-07-26

[RichTC]

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

what i notice is that the Google data centre that serves me in the UK by typing in Google.co.uk is 66.102.9.104 and i see various serps results

Yet, if i type into the browser 66.102.9.104 i get different results why is this?

[edited by: tedster at 10:37 pm (utc) on July 28, 2006]

[followgreg]

>> RichTC: I mentioned these DC because I have read somewhere here that they might be showing the new GG SERP later this month (from a MC post I heard) - But I may have misread something, to be honest I am too lazy to go over all the posts here.

>> Reseller: I find the DC's above low in quality in General, they seem to push up text link buyers (which I hate for some reason) and all kind of low end type of websites that benefit from a low end link development campaign.
Let me explain "low end link development campaign" with an example (not taken from reality so noone is offended here): Why is that a semi automated link scheme, with links placed on Pharmacy type of websites would increase rankings for a NFL ticket broker?

In addition on these DC's you find some websites with a damn close to 100% similar bakclinks ranking sky high.

I also found quite a few cloaking pages though, and some sneaky redirects but not on popular terms so it's not to bad on that end.

That lowers search quality ¦ MY quality time on GG :)
I just don't believe that they will go live with those as they currently are "filter wise".

Well, what do I know, Google is god already, MS wants the position as well, Yahoo...huh well that's Yahoo not sure what Y! is about---- I am going back to the store for some shopping as I heard offering to the gods can work :)

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[reseller]

followgreg

">> RichTC: I mentioned these DC because I have read somewhere here that they might be showing the new GG SERP later this month (from a MC post I heard) - But I may have misread something, to be honest I am too lazy to go over all the posts here."

Thanks for detailed feedback!

That DC set contains the new infrastructure (software upgrade), but that doesn't necessary means that the serps you see now on that DC set are the new serps we are going to see later this month, IMO :-)

Good night all and God bless.

[toothake]

72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.107
72.14.207.107
We will have a new Copra ,Turd ,SERPS/DC's discussion I recon ,like a few weeks ago.

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Hello everyone,

10 days ago Google pretty much stopped showing my site's pages on SERPs that it's been on for 5+ years (still #1 on Yahoo). site: operator does not list the homepage anymore, although the number of indexed pages as shown by site: operator seems quite normal.

However, if I go to this DC: [72.14.207.104...] it shows the site as it was before the drop. So, I'm very interested to know (if possible) if this DC shows future or past results?

Anyone?

Thanks!

[g1smd]

Matt Cutts has made various comments about it in the last few days.

He also hints that he will talk more about it in a few months time.

[followgreg]

>> reseller

Hey man, thanks for the info. I was left with the impression that they were using these DC's for algo tweaks only, my mistake! :)

[RobinK]

Just saw something quite interesting on google. A ton of pages are showing up for the site command now. Lots are supplemental but they do have fresher cache's - all of them this year at least.

This could be that supplemental refresh that googleguy was talking about.

I am hoping this means good things to come.

[RobinK]

they just disappeared and back to 300 and some results. Was 3000 for our site.

I saw this on 72 14 203 104

[RobinK]

now they are back again.

[soapystar]

[72.14.207.104...]

he said...

new infrastructure but without the new micro filters of the last few weeks..months..

although its now said those filters were in place 18 months ago..if so they only just turned the nob to the on position....maybe it was an oversight?

ok..he didnt say microfilters..i just threw that in for dramatic affect!

[RobinK]

I am refering to when he talked about updating the supplemental index. don't think he mentioned an ip for that though.

[steveb]

I'm seeing the supplemental index updated. Gone are the 2005 and 2004 listings. I see some pages listed as supplemental with caches from ten days ago, which is a bit puzzling, but hopefully that old garbage will be gone now, and pages will begin to recover rankings based on current reality.

A few datacenters still with the old ones, but most updated.

[jrs_66]

For the first time... all of my pages have made their way into google. Too bad most are supplemental. Looks like supp. summer might be nearing completion... for better or worse.

[soapystar]

2005 listings are not gone..and i ask the question....are google intending on dumping pages that havent existed since 2005or just updating the caches?

in my case im talking about a complete site that is indexed as %20www and which has returned a server error since midway last year,.... still indexed as supplemental

[reseller]

Good morning soapystar

I see GoogleGuy has posted today something related to your post on this thread [webmasterworld.com]

"Okay, I believe most/all U.S. users should see radically fresher supplemental results now. The earliest page I saw was from Feb 2006, and most of the ones that I looked at averaged in the ~2 month old range.

As data gets copied to more places, the fresher supplemental results should eventually be visible everywhere, not just the U.S."

<edited to fix the link>

[edited by: tedster at 4:34 pm (utc) on Aug. 8, 2006]

[breham]

Quick question from a relative newbie.

Does more pages appearing on the site:www.com search mean more traffic from Google or does it just mean that the site: command is reporting pages that were already being included in the SERPS any way?

My default .co.uk google is showing ~15000 pages but DC 72.14.207.99 is showing near on ~60000 pages

Should I sit and wait for the traffic to start coming in or will things stay the same?

Thanks
Brett
(not the Brett but another one!)

[soapystar]

>>>reseller<<<

thanks but heres the point....they may be updating caches where the page exsists..and they may be removing 404's and such....but they are not removing pages that give a dns error...a correctly setup server will only return a dns error and google is not deleting these pages even though it is unable to show a cache for the non-existant page...and whats more even though clicking the cache shows no cache stored..google does keep a copy since its showing a snippet from when the page existed....and that was over a year ago...well in reality the page never exsisted but wildcard dns was allowing the call from google of %20www

[petehall]

Seen a few good but 'young' sites drawn into supplimental index thanks to low PageRank.

[RobinK]

I see the old 2005 supplementals showed back up for our site on some of the dc's

[steveb]

Yup, December 2004 is back.

This is not a way to run a railroad.

[pivotsage]

Can someone please sum up this last update? I have been out of the seo game for some time now but have had PR6 site and 147+ backlinkslinks for the last 2 years. I now have a PR5 site and with only 43 backlinks.

Thanks in advance!

[Hissingsid]

On .co.uk (DC 66.102.9.104) I think there has been a change in how the "pages from the UK" search is handled.

Previously for a 3 word term that I watch there was no change in the top 10, now the #1 drops out. Their domain is a .com but that did not previously cause them to fall from grace presumably because they are hosted in the UK. Their Whois record seems to indicate that the domain registrar is in Australia.

Can anyone else here confirm these findings?

Sid

[reseller]

pivotsage

"Can someone please sum up this last update?"

There hasn't been an update(s) but few "Data Refreshes" and a single "Bad Data Push" ;-)

Matt has recently made a video about the difference between an index update, an algorithm update, and a data refresh which you can find here! [video.google.com]

PS. There is also a very inspiring video which Matt has also made. Its Ozzie Jumps! [video.google.com]. For your info, Ozzie is Matt's new young male cat which keeps the company of Matt's other cat "Emmy girl". Enjoy :-)

[rden17]

ok, like many of us, a good majority of my pages had been deindexed in May and June. this past week, finally, I started getting them back (although supplemental) in many of the datacenters. checking the data centers often, they seem to be in about 1/2 of them, while the other 1/2 showed the smaller set of indexed pages.

Traffic has been much better this past week. Now, today I checked the data centers again and all but 1 of them has returned to the smaller set of indexed pages.

I'm really getting tired of this roller coaster google is making us ride on. The refresh brought almost all of my pages back (along with traffic) and now - poof - they are gone again (along with traffic)

Google, what's going on?

[colin_h]

We've got a cat called "Googlebutt" and when I get mad, she gets kicked.

;-)

[colin_h]

Hi rden17,

I've been tired of the Google Rollercoaster for 15 months now and they don't seem to care at all. Oooh! I'm getting mad again ... where's that cat.

Seriously though, I'm in the same position. Pages are coming back as either single line or supplementals, traffic is trickling from Google, but MSN and even Yahoo are now really coming up trumps. I don't know if they actively seek sites that get low positions on Google or are searchers actually using them more now?

All the Best

Col :-)

[reseller]

rden17

"Google, what's going on?"

I guess the friends at the plex are still working on the new infrastructure. The current situation shall continue to the end of this summer, IMO.

[Bewenched]

Today I'm seeing results that used to be on

72.14.207.104

now rolling over to

216.239.104

[rden17]

colin_h, can I borrow that cat? :)

I can't even connect to 216.239.104 data center

[Bewenched]

My mistake
216.239.51.104