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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

helleborine

4:59 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That's why I'm beginning to entertain the possibility that Bourbon was halted in the middle of its computations to avoid further bleeding.

Some sites were wrongly filtered out.

Others, well deserving of a filter, aren't filtered.

I smell a job half-done.

annej

5:09 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the more internal links the page contains the more "protected" and "Google respected" it is.

I've been thinking I should to that. Better navigation on that site would be an improvement anyway. On my site that is still doing well I have navigation on the left listing all the related pages on the site.

helleborine

5:20 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site might have had TOO MANY internal links.

My front page had >400 internal links, each pointing to a different "free widget plan." Useful for navigation, but easy navigation is only important if you have visitors. If you don't have visitors anymore, then you might as well deface your website for Google's benefit (I haven't lost my sense of humor).

If there was anything Google might have found dodgy about my page, that is it! Too many internal links. I went the exact opposite way you are going.

With the newly patented "suggestion rank" coined by nutsandbolts, where a hint on the page will outrank everything else, shoot for a keyword density of 0.00000192%!

Rollo

5:33 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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TOO MANY internal links.
I seriously doubt you can be penalized for that, however Google says right in their webmaster guidelines that no more 100 per page are recomended (if you want your site to be spidered properly).

bunltd

5:34 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Some sites were wrongly filtered out. Others, well deserving of a filter, aren't filtered. I smell a job half-done.

I know what you mean. It doesn't make any more sense than it did a week ago. My allin's are great, but I don't rank for any of our usual terms.

shoot for a keyword density of 0.00000192%

Why shoot for anything, since in some cases it seems that only magic will return your site in a search for your keywords. (I'm fresh out of pixie-dust) Maybe a ritual involving beer would improve things, I don't do bourbon...

helleborine

5:39 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Rollo, the combination of 3 AdSense units (flag to apply a scraper filter?), >400 internal links (a hallmark of scrapers), and some keyword rich text might have done me in.

HostingDirectory

5:49 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't know about you guys but i have a huge amount of bots of my forums right at this very moment.

Perhaps this update is taking a new turn?

Anyone else seeing a huge amount of bot activity on their sites?

Ledfish

6:27 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm not overly effected by the update, however I had googlebot grab 85% of my total pages yesterday. Pretty lite today though and after yesterday, I would expect that.

One thing I've noticed is that a term I watch has gone from around 1 million results on Thursday to now just shy of 3 million as of Monday. Not sure what to make of that

[edited by: Ledfish at 6:31 pm (utc) on May 30, 2005]

Dayo_UK

6:31 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



Are we talking normal Googlebot or Mozilla Googlebot.

Mozilla Googlebot was going mad yesterday. Normal Googlebot comes and goes.

reseller

7:03 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Friends!

Google isn't broken at all. Programing wise, things can go wrong, but then Google have the best engineer to fix them. Agree that the serps look different than before allegra and even before Bourbon but that doesn't mean Google is broken.

At the time of allegra 3rd Feb 2005, many of us thought that Google was broken, and since then still many dance for the "Google broken" music during this Bourbon update.

The argument that some of us see the serps poor and lack any system or logic doesn't mean that Google see it that way if they are implementing something new or doing some experiment that non of us know anything about.

Maybe and I say maybe, the folks at Google have decided that business and semi business sites shouldn't have a free lunch any more at top 10 or top 20 of the serps. Business sites should purchase Adwords/AdSense and pay part of the revenues those sites have been generating to Google. In this attempt and during the implementation of such possible policy, serps change and don't look the same as before the update. What I'm writing here doesn't need to be a fact but a possibility.

Some will say but I have a business site which hasn't been affected neither by allegra or Bourbon. But for how long. Can any of you guarantee anything?

To survive Google updates, we need to look at events in open mind, and look at all possibilities in the effort to match Google changes.

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