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My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]
These Serps in 66.102.9.104 are a lot cleaner, big, big improvement.
Massive improvement over what we currently have, they return relevent results for a start, with less doorways, redirects and less poor quality directory sites. Results with some site content taken into account in relation to the search term.
Looks like all the balls are still up in the air?
I was wondering when somebody would figure this out. Seems to me that after ten days, this is what google wants and it's what we've got.
Now the mods here keep wiping out my posts when I say things like this, but here goes...
If you've been negatively affected by this update, you need to find other ways to generate traffic. (and yes, Brett, that is a relevant statement, not off topic.)
Good luck. Happy Memorial Day - we can all remember what it was like two weeks ago.
I have a set of search results that would make everyone really sick but I'd both be breaking a promise and the no specifics policy of this site.
It involves a set of indented search results that has the same page displayed in its two forms one over the other:
WWW.Result1.com/page.html
------ WWW.Result1.com/page.html
Result1.com/page.html
------ Result1.com/page.html
I was doing a search using a text string taken from WWW.Result1.com/page.html
The first result said showing 1 of 4 yada
So I clicked the display ommitted results and was dumbfounded.
I then looked at the html making up the result page and the hrefs were the same for the two WWW.Result1.com pages and likewise for the Results1.com pages.
Talk about a duplicate content problem :( .
This is all I can say since I promised the affected party I wouldn't disclose the domain.
Wahoo! We moved up a whole 5 positions from 85 to 80 and from 95 to 94 on that IP. At that rate our site will be back where it was in about 6 months. Of course by then 11 people will be out of work, but since the US government hasn't stepped in yet over G ruining the economy I guess it doesn't matter.
BTW, I noticed the Google "Dissatisfied? Help us improve" link is either diabled or so bogged down with clickers that it doesn't even respond. Tell ya' something?
[edited by: MikeNoLastName at 11:02 pm (utc) on May 29, 2005]
Answer to earlier question. We see the results in UK filtered a little more as we tend to search on uk results only so it removes usa sites from the search.
However, if we are interested in global search then i believe the results are exactly the same.
Currently, it doesnt matter anyway because unless the SERPs change we still get the same cr@p. These results currently are the worst ever.
The new improved results at data centre 66.102.9.104 at least give hope that Google can recover but as yet i see no change anywhere else.
Share your frustration over googles results. All i would say is that "IT Looks Like" the update is still ongoing.
Certainly its plain to see that the current results are dire. Google must be able to see this? So anything i guess can still happen.
Good luck
We have a similar problem on a slightly smaller scale- perhaps a new thread starting "how to manage your company when google changes"?
I can't prove it, or even figure out how to really explain it, without listing specifics.
I have this group of ten pages. Each of them is optimized for two sets of keywords.
Until Bourbon, all of these pages ranked well for both sets of keywords.
After Bourbon, all of these pages continues to rank well for the first set of keywords, but completely fell out of the SERPS for the second set of keywords.
The format of the titles, h1 text, and anchor text for these pages is:
KEYWORD1 (Keyword2a Keyword2b Keyword2b)
These are acronyms.
My 10 pages still rate for KEYWORD1, but not for "Keyword2a Keyword2b, Keyword2c".
Keyword positioning doesn't seem to be the answer, because I have one page that looks like this:
KEYWORD1 (KEYWORD2) KEYWORD3 (KEYWORD4)
And, on this page, KEYWORD3 has not been hammered by Bourbon.
Unfortunately, one is a pretty small sample size.
It could be an issue as simple as Bourbon failing to handle parentheses correctly.
That would explain this small set of cases, but would not explain 1% of the damage which Bourbon hath wrought.
I just implemented a test for this change. Now I must wait for Google to read my pages and implement the changes in the database.
However, this could also point to a change in the way that Google handles multi-word searches.
That would be much more difficult to evaluate...
I do have a few external links to similar subject sites in the footer of each page (usually much less than number of internal links though). Maybe that is why.
My favorite messed-up SERP result is still there in the top 20 for many phrases such as "free widget" -- only thing is it has been almost 4 years that the site ceased to have anything to do with anything related to "free" or "widget". It has been totally different subject for years, and there are no phrases remotely related to "free widget" on the site. I think a scraper would be a better result.
In my industry anyway.
For the first time there is no crap on the first 3 pages...maybe they are beginning to get it right.
