Google Update Bourbon Part 3

[Sweet Cognac]

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[webmasterworld.com...]

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[Clint]

Will Spencer,
I have a set of search results that would make everyone really sick but I'd both be breaking a promise and the no specifics policy of this site.

It involves a set of indented search results that has the same page displayed in its two forms one over the other:

WWW.Result1.com/page.html
------ WWW.Result1.com/page.html
Result1.com/page.html
------ Result1.com/page.html

I was doing a search using a text string taken from WWW.Result1.com/page.html

The first result said showing 1 of 4 yada

So I clicked the display ommitted results and was dumbfounded.

I then looked at the html making up the result page and the hrefs were the same for the two WWW.Result1.com pages and likewise for the Results1.com pages.

Talk about a duplicate content problem .

This is all I can say since I promised the affected party I wouldn't disclose the domain.

"TheBear", you didn't read that correctly. Those pages are NOT the same URL, check them again. One is a - and the other is a _ . Word-word and word_word. Should I then take one of these pages and direct it/point it to the other page instead of having two actual physical pages? There are two pages in some cases (hyphenated and underscore) because years ago I first made them - , then some were telling me that the _ version is better, so that's when I created the _ version of the URL. I didn't remove the - version because they were ranking well. It's been like this for several years.

[ann]

As regarding broken or hacked google. I just checked the Google page of hiring and this is what I found.

! We are hiring engineers for Google New York, Google Santa Monica, Google Kirkland, Google India (Bangalore and Hyderabad), Google Europe (Zurich and Dublin) and Google Japan

Looks like they need help judging from the exclamation point in front of it.

[nzmatt]

It's the sort of thing one would expect from Yahoo!

With all their out of place exclamations...

[mickeymart]

Someone told me the SERPS are more closely tied to _adsense conversions_

can this be true?

[reseller]

We need somebody to declare Bourbon completed. I personally don't dare to do so.

Maybe Dayo_UK, the man who called Bourbon on a friday :-)

[helleborine]

I would be very shocked to find out that any of what we're seeing has to do with AdSense conversion rates. So many things can influence this... like your placement in the SERPs! I can't believe Google would be so crazy as to implement something so obviously wrong - even if it's in their patent application (I won't bother to check).

I'd be more inclined to believe that the Bourbon algo has had undesired consequences, to an extent greater than anticipated. There is no way they set out to penalize sites like mine.

BTW, I came up first in the allin's last week, then for 48 hrs I came second. This morning I'm back at first. So - something is happening, maybe, what do I know?

[reseller]

helleborine

>BTW, I came up first in the allin's last week, then for 48 hrs I came second. This morning I'm back at first. So - something is happening, maybe, what do I know?<

May I suggest you join us; The Disciples of The Rotating Algos :-)

[helleborine]

Are they rotating algos, or different sets of data to which they apply the same algo?

I'm a already a disciple of "suggestion rank" where a spammy page that mentions my name in font size 1, and not even a link to boot, outranks my website by 150 positions in the SERPs.

You'd lose all faith that the "SERPs are cleaner" if you saw the page that comes first for my company name, especially if you know my site.

[Clint]

Regarding my post of:
A continuation of of my message #183 above:
When I search for that phrase in quotes (PC hardware related phrase), one of my (get this) ONE PAGE SITES for a DOMAIN NAME FOR SALE in the MEDICAL FIELD shows up on the 1st page! Yes, that's right! (On the page I have "this site owned by blah-blah", etc., and the search phrase). Now you wanna talk about more non-relevant BS! Sure, at least a site shows up that "could" reach me.... if anyone happens to think to click a website in the MEDICAL FIELD when looking for HARDWARE!

Well, I've now be DELETED for even that! That #@$!@% website now is also G-O-N-E in the search! Someone has GOT to find someway to STOP THIS INSANITY. As each hour passes, I become more and more "trashed into nothingness".

[reseller]

helleborine

>Are they rotating algos, or different sets of data to which they apply the same algo?<

Mostly its done by applying different algos to different groups of DCs. That process generates different results at different periods of time. Only Google engineers (maybe including GG ;-)) know the exact parameters.