Google Update Bourbon Part 3

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[JudgeJeffries]

Whats to stop Google continuously fiddling with it on a daily basis? We've got used to 'updates' being something major from time to time but just perhaps they intend having major events every day or two for a long time till they think they've got it right.

[Natashka]

Because sites over say 4 yrs old are ranking high with non relevent content over dedicated younger sites.

Devil advocat for old sites: I would say usually younger sites are "black hats". Older sites in good old days of pre-PR era didn't need those dirty tricks to rank good. They may be outdated though, abandonded, frustrated, lost interest, not aquiring new links etc...

Depends on what you consider old though. I'm talking about the ones like myself, who during the last century grew from AOL-tripod-geocities to "big guys". it's harder for them to implement the new bully "techniques", sometimes even for ethical reasons, and they loose the battle to "dedicated".

[reseller]

JudgeJeffries

>How can it be done when there are two different algos more or less equally spread through the DC's or is this the new Google?<

I call this "The Rotating Algos"

You may wish to view what I wrote about it:

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JJ

Sites did not really settle consistently accross the dcs after Allerga.

That is my fear that it may be done.

[Essex_boy]

The Rotating Algos - This is a belief I have utmost faith in.

Your now teh biggest engine so people have to use you if that a decent level of traffic, the algos wonky so how else do you get in? I guess you know the answer.

Answers on a postcard please.

Times are a changing and no I dont like it, but the web is and google are big business I think you can expect further disruption err I mean improvements across the board in the near future.

[Clint]

With all this BS going on, which obviously points to another "google aneurysm" from which they are now BRAIN DEAD......how many of you have tried to contact these anencephalic people? FWIW, I have, and of course after about 20 emails via email and their website, all ignored. I even called last weekend after my business was trashed and got an answering machine, left a message and of course as you'd expect, no call-back. If anyone wants to try:
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail] . And:
650-330-0100
650-623-4000
650-253-0000

I think it's time we decent, legit, soon-to-be FORMER business ownwers all fight back. HOW, I do not know. I'd like to know where are the G-plex employees, or any G employees for that matter, on this thread? Are any here? I'd like for them to show their business-destroying presence with some explanations as to why they have their heads up their collective a**es.

[Clint]

Google is so broken it's making Yahoo look good, and Yahoo is only adequate, it's not a steller search engine. It's really quite sad. I wonder how long it will take the average search user to realize Google SERPs aren't as good as they used to be.
......"Beachboy"

Unfortunately, the "average user" will probably never notice it and go on to continue to use it! As some pointed out after your post, things like: "I just used it and found what I needed", or, "It seems to be OK to me...", etc., that's a bad sign to us with insurmountable losses and is probably indicative of the attitudes or observations of the typical user.

All we can pray for is a TOTAL MAJOR SCREW-UP @G, so bad that their search doesn't hardly work at ALL. THEN, and probably only then will typical users realize they have "had their cranial plates implode on them". (Yeah, a lot of references to the brain in my posts--because something is wrong with THEIR "brain"). ;-)

[Clint]

Hi Clint,
Bourbon is the name given to the update of the Google algo that caused yours and mine and many more sites to be trashed. I was working with a theory that I read in this forum that directory type sites that display Google Adsense have been devalued, but directory style sites that don't display Adsense have been spared.
......"Wibfision"

Thanks, that I knew, but I was wondering why the word or term "Bourbon".

POH-LEEZE let us know what you find out. Just what exactly do you mean by "directory"? Is that like directory pages similar to a phone book directory, pages with just link listings on them, link farms, shopping directories, etc.? THESE are the type of illegitimate sites that have replaced MY business! Also, sites with hidden text, plus many of them have AdWords and AdSense on them. So from what I saw at least, G is rewarding those that use their ads, and also rewarding those with illegitimate and non-relevant sites.

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[JudgeJeffries]

I've tried Gigablast recently and I'm really impressed.
Maybe not so long before the general population cottons on like they did with Google a few years ago.

[Clint]

And I guarantee you there are sites above me that rank for my keywords that have ZERO content related to the keywords, whereas mine do.
....."weela"

Add yet another one to that list (note my last post above). For most of my previously #1 spots, in their places are now sites that don't even have anything do with the search query!