Google Update Bourbon Part 3

[Sweet Cognac]

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[McMohan]

I'm still waiting to hear from someone with a bona fide exception (either breaking all the rules and scoring highly, or not breaking them and still getting dumped on this update

Facts with my directory -

1. Domain Registered - Oct-2003
2. Run Adsense? Yes
3. Maximum no. of external links? 35
4. No. of internal links? 45
5. External Backlinks? (To about 10% of the pages)
6. Update Effect? Almost nil. Traffic is still same, ranks for few of my benchmark keywords just the same.

Hope this helps.

[reseller]

MikeNoLastName

>The three rules needed to get dumped SEEM to be:
1. High proportion of external links (including affiliate links) to internal links and/or content on the page. (exact proportion unknown)
2. Domain newer than 4 years. (over 4 MAY or may not be exempted if 1 & 3 exist)
3. Adsense Ads on the page. <

So far so good :-)

Lets take a look at this one excluding affiliate links for the moment and concentrating only on outbound and internal links:

>1. High proportion of external links (including affiliate links) to internal links and/or content on the page. (exact proportion unknown).<

Have done some counting for the pages which preserved their ranking and those lost it. I can see that the number outbound links shouldn't exceed the number of internal links. Maybe its a factor of:

Maximum Outbound links number either equal or preferably 10% less than the number of internal links.

As to affiliate links I'm looking at present at pages with affiliate programs reviews, both those which kept their ranking on the serps and those which lost it. Shall keep this thread posted.

As to AdSense, It might be a factor among other factors to identify the target pages but not a factor which alone cause a page to be penalized.

[Dayo_UK]

Keep on Dancing - my feet (and traffic) are getting hurt though.

Stupid, Pointless (IMO) Mozilla Googlebot is about my site at the moment eating up bandwidth. Be nice if the crawled data was added to the index in this dance.

[prairie]

DMOZ titles and descriptions are inconsistently replacing what's actually found in the HTML. I don't appreciate it anymore than them caching my images.

[max_mm]

Facts with my directory -

1. Domain Registered - Oct-2003
2. Run Adsense? Yes
3. Maximum no. of external links? 35
4. No. of internal links? 45
5. External Backlinks? (To about 10% of the pages)
6. Update Effect? Almost nil. Traffic is still same, ranks for few of my benchmark keywords just the same.

Hope this helps.

McMohan

Hows your site position on Yahoo's SERPs?

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>Stupid, Pointless (IMO) Mozilla Googlebot is about my site at the moment eating up bandwidth.<

Maybe its just a coincident, both Googlebot and Mediapartners-Google (AdSense) have been visiting my site intensively since yesterday.

Anybody talking about a fat lady at the streets of Norwich ;-)

[McMohan]

McMohan

Hows your site position on Yahoo's SERPs?

Overall, not as good as in Google.

[Dayo_UK]

Nope no sign of her here.

Think we have a way to go though (cant check PR no more :( - at the moment)

With reference to EFV Soup theory of sites bubbling up and down again - perhaps true - but sites seem to bubble up from nowhere and then completely disappear. Perhaps they need to turn the heat down to a lighter simmer.

[aeclark]

Has anyone else noticed that the Bourbon Update seemed to occur shortly after the Google Directory updated its listings from DMOZ?

I wonder if this is a coincidence, or if a gaining/losing a backlink from the Google Directory could explain the rises and falls some sites are experiencing? Or having backlinks which were included or dropped from the Google Directory?

Just curious.

[RichTC]

Well after midnight last night the uk serps were returning cr@p again.

Older sites using re-directs and black hat, back in the index. Cant believe it. They had it right yesterday.

Now its like they have turned the age filter up. Ie if your sites over a certain age it ranks higher regardless of what on page techniques they are using or what quality they put out.

My sector is currently returning very poor results and its one of the largest commercial sectors on the net.

Re-directs, directory sites, spam pages, roll up, roll up its all back in the index.

Priceless......