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In addition, my Yahoo listing disappeared as well. I then did a Yahoo search for pages with my domain included and found most of my interior pages indexed but not my home page.
What happened? Is it possible my site was not ready to be crawled when Googlebot and Slurp robots visied my site - simultaneously?
This is a very "white hat" site - no tricks at all, just good content...
I went and manually requested my site be spidered on both Google and Yahoo, and sent an email to Yahoo requesting any explanation as well.
Is there anything else I can do? Any ideas of why this happened?
My dream of being a orchestral conductor has at last come to fruition. I enact my catharsis at the webmasterworld forum. Everybody is singing off the same hymn sheet exept you.
What are we going to say to the chap who is in a hopeless situation one post above. people like crobb305 needs help and answers, you and I at least know that google should react positively.
I sympathise with you. I too have what were once MEGA COMMERCIAL SITES. Able to sustain 6 wage earners. They were hit by hijackers. I cleaned them up but they have not recovered. And no, they are not sandboxed. They were penalised for duplicate content.
However, I closed one hijacker down, crippled another and am now enjoying much at the expense of a few.
Please continue with your efforts to google. They are in 75% control of their robot the other 25% is in the hands of blackhat webmasters. My share is insignificant.
So, even though all redirects are gone, the penalty remains. How long will it stick? My hijacking problems started last May. The last redirect was removed 2 months ago. Among the redirects I removed were about 10 tracker2 urls, all of which were showing in the site: search as recently as December. Regardless of what you do to clean up the problem, the penalty sticks, indefinitely.
What are we going to say to the chap who is in a hopeless situation one post above
You say:
"Meet me in the GOOG stock chat room @ 8am EST fri morning when the 302 Mob invades"
Starting a revolution only requires 1 shot.
Google management could simply take notice of these concerns and deligate a group to resolve the problem asap but they chose not to.
C
[edited by: crobb305 at 3:12 am (utc) on Mar. 10, 2005]
You are correct and sound adroit at cleaning up those redirects.
However, google is not going to address this problem or give an explanation if we give up. We must fight together for an acceptable answer.
My theory is that google got themselves in a big mess with their adwords campaign. They were too loose with applications to host google adds.
Rectification of the 302 issue for google so soon after going public at the stock exchange will bring the company to its knees. I guarantee this because an enormous change in results will occur and it will be unpredictable.
Stocks will exchange hands fast and devaluation of google must be avoided at all costs at the moment and foreseeable future.
Yahoo will soon compete with its own, more refined version, this will also begin to deplete google’s market share because many angry webmasters will change over.
I personally hope google finds a solution and keeps the others at bay. So we are trying to help google find an answer, they are just being secretive.
Good idea. Although the goal here is not to bring down Google.
Who said anything about bringing down Google?
This has obviously been a problem in the minds of webmasters that has gone unresolved for over a year. When so many webmasters have supposedly contacted Google over this issue and they either ignore or give lip service to individual emails, the only last result is to make it public. One could say posting about it in WebmasterWorld is making it public, but the only public here is your likewise helpless web geek peers.
When I say make it public, they are now a publicly owned company, and their continued silence on this issue seems to force the issue to the only forum to get a public answer which is in front of shareholders and traders. Just beware how you do this as retributions could be nasty, I'd hate to see sites vanish or AdSense accounts cancelled in retaliation, or worse.
However, before making a HUGE stink, it would be nice to hear someone like GoogleGuy weigh in on whether this is in fact a real problem or just a perceived problem. It would give everyone a black eye if it was just misguided paranoia that doesn't actually reflect the true reason the redirecting sites that are ahead of your site, they may be ahead of you for other reasons.
If everyone suffering from this perceived problem wrote them at once, hundreds or more, they might take notice. Give them a week to respond and if they ignore you all, then hit them publicly.
[edited by: incrediBILL at 3:56 am (utc) on Mar. 10, 2005]
Just a reminder that 'scraper sites' and '302 hijacking' are not the same subject.
Yeah, I am confusing the two together.
Hmm... what happen if there are alot of 302 redirects on a single page? Which of the redirected pages will it takes over in google.
Google rocks!
No, it doesn't. They've done tremendous damage to who knows how many web-businesses because of their near-monopoly, courtesy problems they've know about for many, many months. They didn't give a sh*t because they were all sitting around in piles of money from the IPO. If you think G rocks, you must also be a big fan of M$.
I don't understand the silence.
GoogleGuy? Brett?
They have known about the 302 problems for well over a year. They brag about the number of "pages" indexed, yet many many of these are useless redirect urls.
If this result produces strange looking url's like [hijacker.com...] "
i did that and guess one page i found in 1 out of 12 results!
www.google.com/quality_form?q=related:www. mysite.com/&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
well how about that is also Google hijacking or there new technology(algorithm) has a serious problem.
any coments?
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Judging from the number of threads/posts and the number of times this topic has made front page news at Webmasterworld, it is clear the problem is enormous. Google certainly knows of the problem, and it is growing to affect thousands of great content pages.
[edited by: crobb305 at 8:13 am (utc) on Mar. 10, 2005]
