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rshandy

6:39 pm on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site has been in 1st page serps for many years. Just a few weeks ago, my listing went from a title display and decription to just this:

www.mydomain.com/
Similar pages

In addition, my Yahoo listing disappeared as well. I then did a Yahoo search for pages with my domain included and found most of my interior pages indexed but not my home page.

What happened? Is it possible my site was not ready to be crawled when Googlebot and Slurp robots visied my site - simultaneously?

This is a very "white hat" site - no tricks at all, just good content...

I went and manually requested my site be spidered on both Google and Yahoo, and sent an email to Yahoo requesting any explanation as well.

Is there anything else I can do? Any ideas of why this happened?

sailorjwd

10:08 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed an article listed in google news:

'Possible domain poisoning underway'

While the subject is hijacking, what is more important is the writer who wrote the article... if you click on the link of his name you would be able to clue him in to the posts going on here about 302 hijacking. It appears he might be interested in writing about such as issue.

I would do it but I don't know enough about 302 hijacking.

Bobby

10:11 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Also "document.referrer" looks like JavaScript to me

It is, but I believe you can integrate the script into an html link (as does the hijacker) so as to redirect the spider to the new spam page.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

claus

10:37 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> enlighten us as to how Googlebot would react to the script

It would read it but the script would not be executed. So, unless you have the URL of the page with the hijack redirect written out in full text inside the script[1], i would not worry one bit, as Gbot would just ignore it.

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[1] I suppose you don't have this, as it's in hidden inside the "referrer" parameter in stead, so no worries.

Panacea

11:16 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



Although I do not fully understand the technical complexity of hijacking, I do understand how it works in principal. I have had many sites either intentionally or unintentionally redirecting to my top four sites for some time. However, I do not believe this has had any major impact up until now. However, it is my supposition that I had a domain name server glitch back in January and this failure gave the sites redirecting to mine added weight and thus Google saw these sites as my sites. The direct consequence is that my top four sites are now in Google’s supplemental index in a state of perpetual dormancy and no longer get spidered.

I find it difficult to believe and coincidence that my top fours site all because hijacked at the same time. I believe that they became vulnerable to hijacking since I had a domain name server glitch.
I want to know has anyone else experienced a similar situation as mine. All my sites are hosted with GoDaddy by the way.

claus

12:43 am on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yep Panacea, that could very well be what did it for you.

I saw the post two times in the other thread as well, but there's just too much to answer, sorry about that.

Panacea

2:18 am on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)



Claus,

Thanks for your response.

I am taking two measures because I know of nothing else I can do, the hijacking issue is entirely in the hands of Google.

For 3 of my hijacked sites I am going to get dedicated IP Addresses and remain with the current hosting, and for the forth site, I will switch the domain name server and hosting to Network Solutions. Do you think it is possible this may help in anyway?

claus

8:18 am on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I specifically don't think anything about NetSol - meaning: Regardless of my opinion you will not be able to get me to recommend any one hosting company above another. That said, it's always a very good thing to put reliability at least a little higher on the priority list than cost. If you feel that NetSol is more reliable than your current host (i don't even have an opinion on that), then - by any means just go ahead and change.

Apart from this long disclaimer, perhaps making those DNS changes will do something. I'm having a hard time being really positive about it as i don't want to spread false hopes. Normally, changes like this are transparent to Googlebot, so it doesn't even notice that you switch hosts. It will only help to the extent that Google does not only monitor DNS changes, but also act upon them. This has been rumored in the past but it's still nothing but rumors.

milivoye

12:00 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hallo everybody!

I have noticed that troubles on all of my sites affected by this problem started on first of March.

Do you have a similar situation?

Bobby

12:26 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The problem has been around for quite some time now, about a year. When your sites were affected depends on a number of different elements such as when the hijacking site linked to yours, when Google reindexed both sites and such.

An interesting phenomenon presents itself, sort of like Ping Pong.

If your site establishes good ranking in a major search engine (in my case the hijackers were probably using Overture as a basis) the hijackers spot you and steel your content thus causing the demise of your site (unless you have been well established and have some PR to sustain you). Once your site disappears from the SERPs then the hijackers do not redirect to your site anymore and your site can reappear.

Back and forth...

george123

12:27 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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go to
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msg #:284

Bobby

1:19 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just wonderin' out loud here but...

Since it might be too complicated to filter OUT hijackers who use 302 redirects to position themselves in the SERPs (causing innocent sites to get the boot), couldn't Google filter IN 'honest' sites that it knows like Overture etc. and by default not follow the 302s?

jk3210

2:21 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Milivoye-

<<Do you have a similar situation?>>

Yes, March 1st.

MikeNoLastName

11:13 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Googlebot stopped visiting us late Feb 28, but we didn't notice any pages disappearing from the index until March 7.
After a number of e-mails, resubmitting, etc. Googlebot is now back, albeit slowly, and about 40% of our pages are back in the index, although not scoring as well as previously.

jdh226

1:09 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a fairly simple question, which may have already been answered somewhere in this topic, but unfortunately I don't know what most of these terms mean. So, my question is:

My site has been top 5 in SERPS on Google for about a year for my key terms. I was whacked by Allegra. If you type in my company name, I'm all over the place. I still have a PR5 and all my links. However, I'm not listed anywhere -- nowhere -- under my key terms.

When I type in inurl:www.mysite.com, the only sites that come up are my site and two other domains I own that redirect to www.mysite.com. Is it possible that I'm being penalized somehow for having otehr domains redirect to my homepage?

Any feedback would be great.

Thanks.

walkman

5:11 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)



this is getting old. Come on Google. What the hell is going on?
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