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Yahoo.com Using Inktomi

Goodbye Google...Hello Inktomi?

     

ewanfisher

8:35 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just did a search on Yahoo! and got my results returned by Inktomi instead of Google. I did a few more and most of the searches are returning pure Inktomi results, but without clustering. Their is also no cached link.

I checked with a few of my freinds and it seems this is not the same for everyone as yet. Maybe this is the start of the big switch?

I am in the UK but using www.yahoo.com

Ewan

woop01

8:38 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's not happening from the computer I'm in on the U.S.

Imaster

9:06 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see Google

heini

9:16 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like INK was/is on at Yahoo.com for UK users.

I get Yahoogle, with one very strange exception:
destination + hotel searches.
The disturbing thing here is, Yahoo returns the same serps for
destination + hotel
as for
destination + hotels
And those results are the same as Google serps for the plural
destination + hotels

pleeker

9:53 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing some new set of listings. Definitely not an exact match to Google or to the pure Inktomi search. Seems to fall somewhere in between the two for the keyword I'm looking at.

nicebloke

10:17 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm still seeing Google on Yahoo UK and dot com... 'Search Technology provided by Google' from the UK.

Interesting though that it's still the case that if you search for 'sex' and other one worders on uk.yahoo.com it goes straight to the directory results.

steveb

1:16 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo has for sometime been experimenting with certain one word searches. "Furniture" was one for awhile. The results are not Google (though mildly Google-ish) and they definitelty aren't Ink. The one I've been looking at the past two months (with zero update in that time) seems to be a mix of Google and heavy weight to the Yahoo Directory... seven of the top eight sites are the "most popular" in the Directory, including one that is literally not in the top 500 in Google.

If you aren't seeing literally straight Ink, my guess is that you are seeing one of the experiments.

dnbjason

2:12 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All the results I get are no longer Google results!

mcavic

2:29 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm getting Ink results for the first time... :(

moltar

3:47 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I get Google results in Canada. I checked few different keywords including "furniture".

operafan

4:56 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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notin here in asia

ciml

10:07 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From the UK, using yahoo.com, I get Inktomi for a lot of searches. Completely different (not Inktomi or Google) for some phrases.

The title in the SERPs is the title of the page from from the Yahoo! directory category the page is in, not the HTML title of the page itself.

[search.yahoo.com...]

steveb

12:36 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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When you guys say "inktomi" are you meaning you are seeing hotbot/inktomi or position tech pure search inktomi? The results of those two are very different for me.

ewanfisher

1:24 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing "pure search inktomi".

creative craig

2:16 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am also seeing pure Inktomi results on UK Yahoo! for travel related search.

lasko

3:17 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have just search Yahoo for the same keywords 10 times one after the other.

The results are different everytime. On one occassion the the new PPC from overture didn't showup however the rest of the time they did.

The results also changed from recent google to old google. I can't see that they are INK results.

One thing is for sure I am well ranked in Yahoo and they don't bring me much.

panic

7:14 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Owned.

George

2:03 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo is certainly not using Google when ever I access. However, what are they using?
Some of my observations:

From the UK, Yahoo.com is still Google for me.

For yahoo.co.uk web results on one keyword, I see two uk sites that do well in google at 7 and 13. (I know these are UK sites, and that they are registered, hosted etc over here)

For UK only results, there is one at 9.(was at 7 in the full web results, go figure that).
The one that has dropped out, was a dot.com. Pretty basic geotargeting if you ask me.

Then, at 15, is a site that is a mirror of the dot.com mentioned above, (on a a dot.co.uk domain). However, this is a "backup", has no links into it, and was submitted about 3 years ago when the domain was being used for something else.

Meanwhile some of the top slots are taken by sites in the 50s when UK only is not selected.

trying to work out what this means is difficult, but how about:
95% of the algo is "on page" criteria. (I think link text is still important on page here folks)
Uk results must show a dot.co.uk. (any other proof?)
Different algos for full web results, and uk only results, hence the jump backwards.

Oh, and I chose this phrase and sites because:
all serps are different, but these sites are well placed elsewhere:

top of google.co.uk serps, top few on google.com
top in ink pure search,
sites listed in DMOZ
listed in yahoo
top on hotbot.co.uk (pure search)
about 8 on hotbot.com
etc
Any thoughts?

angiolo

3:09 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Italy: I get Google results using yahoo.com or it.yahoo.com

skibum

6:47 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One of our feeds is showing a few clicks from YAHOO! US. Very few, but a few none the less.

Marval

11:47 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Being one of those in the top 20 on Google for one of those little single words I can tell you that I would have to agree that the results are a mix of Y's directory and "something" else - definitely not Google - and no idea as I've looked at all of their other partners?

fr_cnx

8:01 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am also seeing Inktomi results on UK Yahoo! but it seems to me that Y! results are more fresh. (title and description of my client site)

johnafrid

8:21 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Tokyo, Japan
powered by google

snookie

10:14 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can confirm that travel queries return inktomi results for UK geezer searchin' the .com site.

Oh dear, time to pay for my inktomi inclusion then...

afterburner

11:48 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As of this morning I do indeed see Inktomi results in Yahoo.

Rugles

2:28 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same old Google listings in Y for me.

vonna

3:46 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Denmark: I'm getting Inktomi including paid inktomi links , the results are in a totally new order not like on hotbot - msn , but it looks like the top 20 sites are the same just ordered in a different way.

( not counting the included paid Yahoo directory listings ).

onedumbear

9:26 pm on Nov 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have no paid listings in ink, but most of my sites are listed in ink.
Here in the us i do not see ink results on yahoo.
In the last few days, however, i see a growing number of searches in my log files that are originating from yahoo.
Many of these are pages that are not yet listed in google,av, or atw yet.
The interesting thing to me is that the search phrases be used to find these pages in yahoo usually include a state and or city. "they are informational pages about various us cities".
This leads me to believe that yahoo is also showing pure ink results from various places in the US.

GreatVista

5:13 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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China, still Google result

tigger

6:44 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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how do you guys know your seeing Ink results? are you seeing redirect-east on mouse over? as I've looked at Y.co.uk and all I'm seeing is G still
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