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GG said earlier that it wasn't going to be used for at least around a month so I can't see it happening in this update which means waiting all through Christmas!
One thing I have noticed though - in the .9 Jagger3 DC, I can still find a site I stopped using months and month ago in the SERPS but on [18.104.22.168...] it has gone (as it should be) and overall the SERPS look much much better (in my opinion of course) :-)
We have been around for 7 years, never use any spam or anything on the page, people have linked to us as we had a high ranking site on google naturally.
its easy to say you can't rely on google when running a business but how easy is that when everyone uses google and the other engines fade into comparison.
We are no1 on yahoo for the same keywords and we are still down 60% on sales.
Can anyone take a look for us please as i can see nothing wrong with the site, perhaps you experts at the forum will be able to help?
Yes, they have a few more site:domain.com correctly ordered - but the data is soooooooooooo old.
But as we know this is just a test centre sitting in a corner - then fair enough use old results. Cant really see the improvements on the non-www situation Zeus.
joined:Nov 3, 2005
joined:Nov 3, 2005
There is something strange here on the dc on the results, 22.214.171.124 there is our website and a competitor below me, then on all the other dc's we are gone except everyone else is there.
Do you think we have a chance of returning?
Yes - OK - but I have had a site that has had that fixed and still do not come back.
Maybe the sandbox effect - but the site does not come back until G recognizes that it is the main page from the site - eg site:www.domain.com www.domain.com = www.domain.com being top.
This comeback seems very slow or maybe even impossible or a fluke for the ones that do come back.
joined:Nov 3, 2005
I also think there has not been a real update on that DB and the hurt sites are also not ranking, but that will come after the PR has come back, still its just a test DB, but there are REAL hope now.
I have not lost hope.
It is just that if the non-www/www situation appears to be fixed on a site - that site may still struggle.
It is like all of the power on the home page has gone. (Hence my Homepage PR0 - Internal pages with PR)
I think the backlinks will again get a update within 1-2 month and if they use some of the fixes from the test DB, it could be a great day.
Just thought I'd mention it in case the title tag is playing a part.
because you already have existing links to your site, which will then look unnatural for google
I lost a lot of good positions at the beginning of October and in an attempt to remedy an (imagined?) dupe content penalty I reduced the amount of standard text that appeared on my individual data/item pages, in the process introducing a phrase that was not previously used.
Running a site: search on that phrase on the main Google site shows around 500 results, which disappointed me because I have nearer 40k such pages (all unique user-generated content), all of which have been subject to intense spider activity over the past few weeks.
126.96.36.199 is showing all those pages on a site: search - in other words, it's very definitely including new, recently spidered data which has not been showing up on the old site.
Anyone who was hoping that this was an old dataset refiltered, or something like that, needs to adjust their hypothesis accordingly.
It looks to me, from my limited POV on this that this contains something very similar to an old-fashioned update, bringing in content spidered in the preceding month as new.
Hope this helps. All just MHO of course.
Very interesting observation MIOP... Does G penalize sites where there is a lot of dupe in the title? We have several pages with keyword + keyword + strap line. I wonder if the strap line is upsetting G. Most of our pages have sunk without trace, it so happens that the one page that has maintained its position doesn't have the strap... Hmmm, time to make a few investigative changes...
love it or hate it, it appears to be very much a non-issue to those fretting over holiday serps, including quite possibly, and perhaps probably, even Valentines or St. Paddy's time frame.
Jagger shows SERPS with all of the knobs turned up, thus effecting many people's positions, including many white hats. Lots of junk in SERPS. Lots of poor results.
188.8.131.52 seems like a clean index with the junk removed, the canonicals fixed and the supplementals gone (for me atleast). Overall, better results.
GG says 184.108.40.206 is not going to be seen for a few months.
Haven't we seen the pattern of the big shaekup right before the height of Q4, with things settling back to more normalcy after Q4 before?