Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[greenfrog]

oh man I hope not.

My horses are dead in the pasture.

[edited by: greenfrog at 8:06 pm (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]

[Dayo_UK]

Agreed Steve.

The intresting thing about my Canonical problems is that Jagger2 is a lot better in some respects eg: site:www.domain.com www.domain.com - homepage comes first on some sites - while on the Jagger1s (66.102.7.99) some of the homepages actually rank for the name.

So both sets show encouraging signs as far as Canonical problems are concerned - and that is not even supposed to be addressed until Jagger3 :)

So it does really seem that Google are serious about a fix.

Got a little way to go, and as I have said before I need a crawl (from normal Googlebot ;)) - before I can really say my sites are back.

But encouraging so far.

[steveb]

I'd love to see Jagger3 five seconds from now, but I'm curious to see if today's everflux will kick free those two /sections/ of my site that didn't get healed. It would be normal enough if it took another day's flux to fully heal everything, but it would be really weird if two random parts of a site don't get healed while the rest does.

[websoccermom]

I had a new site (5 months old) finally show up in google last week with Jagger 2. It was #3. This morning it was still number 3. I just checked just and it is gone again in all data centers.

The results I get with my keywords appear as though they are pre Jagger? Anyone else notice this?

I so hope this temporary.

[joeduck]

In the guidelines it talks about “sites” going supplemental, when it’s more common (I think) for only certain pages of a site to go supplemental. Why does this even happen? Guidelines are frustratingly vague on this.

Is supplemental a kiss of death for the page or can it be reversed?

Are others seeing Jagger changing their supplemental listings?

[Dayo_UK]

Cool - Very clear example of what I have just been talking about regarding order of results returned within a site search.

Site search on Webmasterworld on 66.102.11.104:-

[66.102.11.104...]

Brett - you might want to add your 301 back from non www to www BTW

Notice that it is very logically ordered - eg Homepage followed by direct links from homepage (eg forum indexes)

Compared to this:-

[66.102.7.104...]

Pages not really in an order (which I understand)

Now the 66.102.7.104 is giving me better results on some searches as I say - so this has got something about it too, however my main site is still not fixed - but encouraged :)

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 8:31 pm (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]

[TonyMc]

websoccermom, I have a site that looked like it popped out of the sandbox yesterday...biggest day ever. Today, it's much quieter. I'm hoping whatever changed yesterday will come back.

[300m]

"Is supplemental a kiss of death for the page or can it be reversed?"

One of the domains I work on have a supplemental listing because apparentley at some point there was a virtual directory grabbing pages with no extension for multiple domains.

example

domain.com/keyword

Notice how there is not any file extension?
I do not know a lot about virtual directories, but for some reason out of all of the site command links listed in google for that domain, that is what is listed as supplemental.

Do i need to be concerned with this?

If yes, what should I do?

[BradStevens]

So, let me ask y'all a question ... is this some sort of race to see who can see J3 or something?

Because, I really, truly do not see the need to examine the 1st blush of J3 results. It's obviously going to perculate for quite some time. Ranking will shift for hours, perhaps days after release.

Anyway ...

[zikos]

"Is supplemental a kiss of death for the page or can it be reversed? "
It can be reversed,if you change the whole content of the certain page and have it recrowled.It happened recently on an old page I had deleted and was there as supplemental .