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I agree with gopi though, that the more 'offsite variables' that you reduce, the easier it is to manipulate serps. I think it was suggested earlier that this may be google's attempt to thwart PR for sale. The pages I have checked, proximity seems to be more of a factor as well. The power of link pop has dramatically suffered I do believe. I guess this is G's response to 'google bombing' as well.
I think the simple fact is that their will always be SOME spam, and G is just tweaking variables to see which technique will be most effective. I guess I am probably biased (based on this month's results), but it seems to me that things won't turn out as good as they had hoped. Guess it's time to start hackin' away for next month:)
[edited by: stuntdubl at 6:10 pm (utc) on Sep. 26, 2002]
joined:Mar 10, 2002
Is anyone else seeing more pages with exact matches in the title text? I lost position on a few kw phrases on my PR6 page due to the exact match in the title of some other pages with only PR3. Glad they're not my primary kw's.
A bunch of double-barrel URLS drop, and another bunch take their place. There's more to this than URL name
For my SERPS, I see much less spam, but then again, maybe I just see it that way since I'm in the top 10 :) The site also has a PR5 last update and I'm hopeful it will get PR6 after this update.
So blue widget company got links with only blue widget. Thats the power of PR. Users dont care if company ABC ranked #1 by optimising ...as long as ABC's site sell or describe blue widgets.
But if you throw PR out , its very very easy to manipulate onpage creteria and its very very easy to optimise for " UNRELATED TERMS ".
You will begin to see the dark age of porn sites optimising for highly searched terms relevent or not, just to gain more traffic
I'm going to pinch myself and just keep chanting, "there's no place like home" while I click my heels. 'Cause the google gods could NOT have smiled upon me THIS much. (I'll wait 'til the dance stops.. but at this point I'm a little bit too )(#@)* happy!)
Almost makes up for google crapping on me for the last 4 months! (Almost!)
Here's what I'm seeing (have been seeing it for 3 hours already, on the primary [www], www2, and www3) --
some of my NEW sites that still have a PR0 (yes, a WHITE bar in the toolbar, NOT greyed out!) are now ranking #1.
The TITLE tag seems to be the most important thing for my current (albeit temporary) rankings! My page rank is non-existant! Every page on the site shows up as PR0... yet almost every page consistently shows up in the top 3-4 places in google (and when that fails they're at least in the top 10!)
Now I'll sit quitely for the other google shoe to drop on my head.
Care to dance anyone?!?
joined:July 24, 2002
<sobbing in the corner>
Search for: go to hell
on www.google.com: yahoo is on 5
on www2.google.com: yahoo is not under the first 40
this phrase (go to hell) is only in links to yahoo
Furthermore in my opinion PR is not applied
In www2 and www3, I can find about 81 URLs of my site when searched with website (as in www.website.com). No description. Most of these URLs are new and do not show up in www.google.com. There are over 100 other sites which also show in all google sites when searched with "website". Why does not any description show up for my URLs?
[edited by: QNetwork at 6:46 pm (utc) on Sep. 26, 2002]
Check this out:
* my site that is ranking VERY VERY well (at the moment) doesn't have META description tags NOR META keywords!
* only titles
* anchor text (hyperlinks) within the site are not even all text based! (massive navigation is done via images, with ALT text on the images).
Seems the google algorithm is getting a bit more in-depth when it comes to actually parsing the page itself... not reading what META tasg I CLAIM to be about (or external third-party links in, as my PR is still 0), and the keyword stuffed domains seemed to have dropped quite a bit (but are still there).