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September 2002 Google Update

It's Official

   
11:37 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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7:15 est I see different results on WWW, WW2, and WW3 in Florida
12:51 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Some of the new results are already hopping in and out of www3 -www

zeus

12:52 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The ex directory shows the new results. Thanks laz.

And I've thought I know all of Google's domains. :)

12:52 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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[directory-ex.google.com...] is showing new results for me, + 1PR woohoo.

aek

12:53 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A complete unmitigated disaster for me. All but one of my sites are down considerably. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
12:54 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>http://directory-ex.google.com - it does not show new results, the new directory will take its time to be updated.

My other site has been in the DMOZ for like 2 months now. This site not only isn't in the Google directory yet, the DMOZ listing also isn't showing up using link:www.mysite.com. This DMOZ page has a PR of 5. My other site is listed in that same DMOZ category, and I see the DMOZ listings in the backlinks for them. Google is way behind on directory updates.

12:55 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Jeez, I get stuck into a little programming for half an hour and all of a sudden there's five pages of UPDATE!

Sheesh, gotta check my sites... wish me luck ;)

Nick

12:55 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>This update needs some fixing.

Yep something funny going on. Seeing Google FAQ page appearing in Japanese for unrelated 3 word english search.

12:56 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Same thing for me: did some SEO work making sure I wasn't spamming but most of my KW went down in the SERP.

Looks like my september work did more harm than good....

mat

12:56 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well, I like it. Yes, concur that page titles are BIG. Have noticed that there are very few front page (page one SERP) sites that do not have an ODP listing. Not dropping DMOZ just yet then. Mat
12:57 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)



sweet, so sweet - no 1 on 4 main keywords - top 5 for another half dozen or so....(im doing a dance right now as well)....only second month in google.... :)

thank you webmasterworld!

12:58 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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== Google is way behind on directory updates. ==

Did a check up in that directory and indeed, my site is high in the results but with a cached page of July?

I'm going to bed and let it all whoooo for a day or 2...

1:00 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The Toolbar search gives me direct www2 results but shows www on top.
When did this happen?
1:03 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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New update = not pretty.

consider if keyword in domain name is given more now.

I don't think so, rfgdxm1. Two of my major sites have dropped completely off the SERPs. Formally occupying the number one position in Google, and now nowhere to be found. One was www.keyword1-keyword2.com, the other was www.keyword1.com

Yet one of the sites has stuck in it's number 3 postion, a spot it's held for quite awhile now..

Go figure.

and did I mention, not pretty?

- Chad

1:04 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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This update needs some fixing.

I am seeing a Japanese page in full Japanes turn up top three for a dutch keyword.

The www2 is in heavy flux. The Jap serps have been zapped out again.

1:08 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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for .com I'm getting a SERPS that looks almost entirely based on link pop...not very good at all from either Google's POV or mine...still, there is a long way to go yet
1:09 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Did a check up in that directory and indeed, my site is high in the results but with a cached page of July?

However, Google seems to have updated the Yahoo directory. I've been in that for over 2 months, and *finally* on this update my main site on a link: check is showing my Yahoo! directory listing. Needless to say good for me, as any new inbound link with decent PR can't hurt.

1:10 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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New site indexed but nowwhere to be found when u search on keywords (despite keyword 1 in domain)

doh

1:12 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Excellent so far... spam sites fading away... much better update than those last two.

But boy oh boy I still don't get that google directory. In page rank order I'm listed behind a few sites who have 1/5th the links I do, and I have every link that they do. Pagerank drives me to drink.

1:12 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't think so, rfgdxm1. Two of my major sites have dropped completely off the SERPs. Formally occupying the number one position in Google, and now nowhere to be found. One was www.keyword1-keyword2.com, the other was www.keyword1.com

Yes, that's it!

2 of our sites are GONE and one more has gone from #1 to #14

All of them were keyword1-keyword2.com

I also noticed the same for one competitor site

1:14 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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For me Spam competitor sites are ranking higher than before and I have dropped for no explicable reason on some kw's, but gained on others. My faith is being tested :-(
1:15 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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sw8296 I have change directory this update and my site is not listed in the ex driectory, but I www3 my site has a directory listing but it does not show when I push the link and also not in ex directory, but I know it will show up later in the update.

zeus

1:16 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I don't think so, rfgdxm1. Two of my major sites have dropped completely off the SERPs. Formally occupying the number one position in Google, and now nowhere to be found. One was www.keyword1-keyword2.com, the other was www.keyword1.com

Still early in the dance, and I could very well drop back. One other possibility is that this has something to do with my Yahoo! directory listing showing up in the backlinks. Although, it so happens that it is my *other* main keyword that is in the anchor text in the Yahoo! directory listing, not the one I hit #1 for. So far I dropped one place, from #5 to #6 on that keyword.

1:17 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have a lot of offtopic results, without the keyword in any place, without backward links, russian results for spanish keywords. Fully caotic results.

I think this will need some fix too.
I need it. ;)

1:20 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing totally different results depending on which proxy I use.

Its still dancing guys - too early to jump to any conclusions as we are not all seeing the same results.

1:22 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi folks,

i need an expert opinion on a strange thing that happens to one of my domains:

i did a site:foobar.dom foobar and got SERP:
ca. 300 hits, but it shows only 1 result which has nothing to do with me :-?

is it possible that i got kicked? or will domains that are listed in that form still be updated?

means: if the domain is not in the update now, could it still appear?

greetz,
pontifex

1:13 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you are listed in the www2 and 3 does that mean that you will be listed in the www for sure? If not, exactly what is www2 and 3 for?
1:20 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Almost certainly yes. The first appearance of a new site is usually on www2 and www3 at the beginning of the dance. The time to panic is if a site in before disappears from www2 and www3. That happened to me one month. :(
1:26 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Sweet old Google I love you! May these results carry over! A years worth of no salary and hard work day and night 7 days a week may finally finally pay off! I love you google I love you google!

Thank you all on this forum too for the pointers and tips! I love you google! :)

1:26 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Heh, some completely different site is showing up in my spot on my main SERP, with my directory description and category - I think this one is a long way from stable yet!
12:47 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If anyone has time during the update please answer some of these questions

1. Which www should I be looking at www www2 www3?
i.e have number 17 in www and number 1 in www2,www3 which is going to be my finale position?

2. Can anything I change now effect my positons?

3. When does PR change?

4. how long does this dance last for?

5. should I be looking at my links in www www2 www3 again which is likely to be the finale number?

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