The May, 2004 Update

[dvduval]

I see new backlinks here:
[216.239.41.104...]

[CygnusX1]

I also have had my pages get updated. I even have them on the tool bar as well. Now if it will just stay this way and not go back. lol

[Haecceity]

Yes, I'm seeing new results as well. It'll be interesting to watch them as they settle down. No change so far on my positions.

[Marcia]

Seeing backlinks updated on www2 as well, but I haven't yet seen SERPs changed accordingly - not at this time. Results seem to change a bit almost on a daily basis; it looks the same to me regardless of change in backlinks based on what I've checked so far.

[quotations]

I am seeing bizarre numbers on that IP.

It lists 5 backlinks for a site which had about 40,000 listed yesterday.

[quotations]

And now that same site has 4900 backlinks showing on that IP address.

[rfgdxm1]

>Seeing backlinks updated on www2 as well, but I haven't yet seen SERPs changed accordingly - not at this time. Results seem to change a bit almost on a daily basis; it looks the same to me regardless of change in backlinks based on what I've checked so far.

EXACTLY Marcia. I have but one thing to say: yawn. SERPs are the same old, same old. I say move along folks. Nothing of much interest to see here.

[walkman]

"EXACTLY Marcia. I have but one thing to say: yawn. SERPs are the same old, same old. I say move along folks. Nothing of much interest to see here. "

I HOPE you're right....because right now my serps have jumped by a lot

[soapystar]

its been a long time since pr and backlink changes were in step with serp changes..is anyone really expecting to see a change in the serps?

[rfgdxm1]

>its been a long time since pr and backlink changes were in step with serp changes..is anyone really expecting to see a change in the serps?

In that case, is "It's the Update! Yay!" an appropriate subject line for this thread? Who in the real world cares about what the link: command shows? Unless there are major changes in the SERPs, then this isn't an update in the sense some webmasters feel the thrill of victory, while others experience the agony of defeat.

[dvduval]

I agree that there is not much to see yet. However, if you have new sites that are now showing backlinks, or an old site that is showing more backlinks, it means you likely have something to look forward to in the near future. Backlinks are one measure of a site's success (among many).

With the recent Sandbox Effect, I am a little more curious to see what will happen. Many people are still offering theories about this, and there is still much to be learned.

[annej]

The old Google Dances were really a lot more fun. There's none of that great adrenalin rush anymore.

[dvduval]

I see the links now showing on www. That was quick. I wonder what is likely to come next. I assume PageRank updates will arrive shortly.

[walkman]

which is the earliest IP for toolbar update? is it always the same, or does it change?

[nuevojefe]

I'm seeing updated PR for 10 index pages of 10 different sites of ours. None of the internal pages are showing any though. This is annoying, they've all been indexed for over a month.

SERPs are updated every 2-4 days in the areas I watch, whatever changes in PR/BL's you'll see are already weighted in the current SERPs.

Keep it moving...

[walkman]

Ok, here I come: How do I know /find out if a backlink from site X is showing up? It's not in the first 1000 links

[peter andreas]

Yes, just seen our PR go up to 5 today and backlinks increase

[robotsdobetter]

My PageRank went up as well on three of my sites. One even jumped from 4 to 7, I just hope it stays there, but if don't all well.

[jimh009]

SERPS haven't changed at all, but the links and toolbar PR have updated. Just like I predicted in the thread about "when is the update going to be"!

[pontifex]

nuevojefe:

I'm seeing updated PR for 10 index pages of 10 different sites of ours. None of the internal pages are showing any though. This is annoying, they've all been indexed for over a month.

same here. I have a site with PR7, it got it last update. But the subpages still at white... some internal pages had an update, but no real "deep" calc, as it seems :-/

P!

[darkroom]

yes, i see no PR for my newly added internal pages when they've been indexed for a month now..I do see an increase in the backlinks, however the PR has gone down(awkward)...i had lots of links from PR7 sites...maybe PR has got something to do with the sandbox effect...and so no PR = my site is in sandbox....but i guess its too early to say anything...
another thing i observerd is that my new sites are now showing backlinks...but no PR...still the old white bar..very strange..

[Moondog]

How do I know /find out if a backlink from site X is showing up? It's not in the first 1000 links

links:yoursite.com site:theirsite.com

[Stefan]

Interesting. Backlinks up on the index page, but pages added since April 15 still showing PR0. Maybe it's still propagating through the dc's...

[edited by: Stefan at 1:00 am (utc) on June 1, 2004]

[walkman]

links:yoursite.com site:theirsite.com

I tried it by adding the http... and the rest too. No luck either way even with the site that's showing as a backlink

[Stefan]

Backlinks showing for a recent page that still has PR0...

It's link:www.example.org, not links:

[bts111]

I have a site that has been through it's second PR update that has a PR of 6 on index page but the sub pages are as still as white as snow.

:( Any Ideas?

[Stefan]

At a guess, bts111, the toolbar PR hasn't been updated, (not that I can see yet), but the algo backlinks etc have been. At least that's what's happening on our site right now. We have internal backlinks showing for pages put up 2 or 3 weeks ago, but no toolbar PR.

Give it some time...

[atlrus]

My backlinks increaset with over 1,700, but my PR fell from 6 to 5. And I have quite a few PR8 home pages linking to me.

At the same time - no changes in the SERPS.

[edited by: Marcia at 1:46 am (utc) on June 5, 2004]
[edit reason] Off topic comment removed. [/edit]

[darkroom]

if the toolbar PR hasn't updated then why did it go from PR6 to PR5?

[BigDave]

OH NO! my backlinks have dropped from 765 to 422! It is surely time to panic!

Then again, my traffic always seems to do better on months that google reduces the number of backlinks that they report. The big difference in the count seems to be the number of my internal pages that they count as backlinks.

The number has jumped up and down for the last year with a low in September of around 130, to a high a few months ago of 1400. I rarely lose a link once I gain it, and I have never had a month other than december where the average daily traffic has dropped more than 3% from the previous month.

Backlink nummbers are novelty numbers that are really only good for entertainment purposes (knowing your competitor's backlinks on the other hand are quite valuable) right up there with toolbar PR and the allin commands for usefulness.

Yawn