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The May, 2004 Update



10:54 pm on May 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see new backlinks here:

lost in space

11:59 am on Jun 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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About An Update....

It certainly appears that there has not been a major update, however I myself as well as other members have suffered a massive loss in hits this past week. It does appear that PR has updated. My index page is still a 6, but my internal pages all dropped from 6 to 5. Most people have not seen a significant change in position, but still something has hit many other site owners this past week. Perhaps a slight tweak in the algo or a few new penalties were recently implemented. I would love to hear from anyone else suffering from a recent loss in hits.


1:01 pm on Jun 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My experience with this update....
One of my sites lost 80% percent of its backlinks and
indexed pages(15,000). Also, I noticed that none of my important directory backlinks are showing including google, dmoz, and yahoo. I can't seem to figure it out. This site is over a year old and had 300 plus quality backlinks. At first I thought that google had lost data, but the PR of the site didn't change. Any ideas as to what happend?


1:58 pm on Jun 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

"One of my sites lost 80% percent of its backlinks"

I now have only 25% of the backlinks, but the traffic increased shaply. No idea why but obvioulsy I hope it stays this way.


6:20 am on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Envision, I do have an idea and it goes back to April 29, 2004.

Google Inc. Filed Registration Statement with the SEC for an Initial Public Offering. Google stated:

"There is an ongoing and increasing effort by “index spammers” to develop ways to manipulate our web search results. For example, because our web search technology ranks a web page’s relevance based in part on the importance of the web sites that link to it, people have attempted to link a group of web sites together to manipulate web search results. We take this problem very seriously because providing relevant information to users is critical to our success. If our efforts to combat these and other types of index spamming are unsuccessful, our reputation for delivering relevant information could be diminished. This could result in a decline in user traffic, which would damage our business."


6:26 am on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you, zafile. It may not please some among us or suit the inteded purposes, but apparently that is how it IS.


6:33 am on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

It'll be interesting to see how serious Google gets against those sophisticated "index spammers". The following days should be exciting ...


2:52 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Actually I think it's the June update,

PR updated last week, Algorithm tweaked, and now no
Fresh Tags. Will we see a new index shortly?


9:24 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nice find Zafind - and proof positive that cross-linking between a large network of your own sites can be a very, very risky business.


10:56 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And also proof positive that PR is still alive and kicking.


11:08 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you think that Google knows which sites have a common owner, by looking up the domain registration? If so, even one-way linking between sites may cause penalties. Of course, some spammers vary their domain registration information and even use different web hosts or IP addresses, so this filter can be beaten (at a cost).

It used to be safe to put a relevant link between different sites that you owned. Like everyone else, I'm trying to understand the threshold between good, honest, relevant links and "index spamming".


11:44 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Got one word for this "update" sucks. That is all.

Either that or my site does? can't figure it out.


11:57 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Either that or my site does? can't figure it out.

Maybe it's both?

I know I have seen the results change 6 or 7 times since the update. I think it will interesting to see if they update it again.


12:24 am on Jun 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm. By chance I happened to be looking at Google referrals at 8:20pm (EST) on Sunday night and I'm noticing a strong upswing in referrals. Over the past 12 hours, my site averaged 96 google referrals per hour. Over the past hour, there have been 117. There have been 76 in the previous 30 minutes. It's unusual for my site's google referrals to surge on a Sunday evening. Either this is an anomaly or there has been a modest shift in my serp performance.

I guess I'll have to look more closely in the morning.



12:53 am on Jun 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I still find URLs such as [widgets-word1-word2.com...] in the Top 20.

I first noticed said issue on May 19 2004 according to my post at [webmasterworld.com...]

I have to give credit to Google because I haven't seen any porn URLs among valid searches. On this regard, Google has done a good job.

However, more than a month after Google formerly announced its intention to go public, its technology doesn't impress me enough to want to buy stock.

Search results on the real estate field are quite lousy.


8:00 am on Jun 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well still no change here.

My visitors are still down 1000 a day ever since Memorial Day weekend however the number of pages indexed has gone up. I also have yet to see any PR changes.

Right now it almost feels as if they are reindexing everything as I do have some good listings but just not what it was before Memorial Day weekend. It should be noted that this site gets 88% of Google traffic.

I am hoping somewhere that someone will post what has changed in this week as this is driving me nuts. Every time I change the site I go up for a little bit and then bam another update hits


3:25 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Still waiting for the big overhaul, have a feeeling it's coming soon, maybe this weekend. New backlinks, changes in PageRank, fresh tags turned off for a few days, all that is mising is the big change in SERPS. Shall we dance the dance of old soon? Certainly hope so.


3:37 am on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is this thread still going? It's not even may anymore. :-P


6:15 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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After the may update, our pagerank fell from 7 to 6 and our traffic has gone down. I have not figured if it is because of page rank change or google has just dropped pages(The page rank just went up 2 months ago) I have not made any changes to the site. Can anyone suggest reasons why this (change in page rank) could have happened? Does this mean that we have been penalized?


8:04 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

There was no May Update, just PR changes


8:16 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Mods, please close the thread! When/if the update happens, we can start a new one in the relevant month...


11:19 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Actually there was an update:)


11:58 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just the ongoing small updates, not a large one based on
new PR. BTW, seeing another PR change and backward links as we speek.


6:37 am on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anytime I lose 1000 visitors a day from google I know there has been a big update:)
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