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10:54 pm on May 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see new backlinks here:
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3:35 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well also in Europe here, I only see a Pagerank update and an update in backlinks. Further nothing, got even a dmoz link, but the site sits where it has been for over 2 weeks now. So I won't call this an update. (no change in SERPS).
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Last update was it the same. First link and page rank update and after couple days SERPs update. I can not remeber if it was three days or two weeks.
4:03 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From my position in the UK, the new datacentre is displaying updated SERPs in my industry. However, these new SERPs haven't been copied to www2 or www3 but backlinks have.

Best to keep watching I suppose...

4:53 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Southern, CA. See changes, and I'm a bit disappointed. Many of our new sites got PR, 4's,5's, and 6's but none of the internal pages got anything. Pages that have been indexed well over a month and a half ago.

Similar internal pages that already had PR on one site kept it, while new pages that are linked from the same pages, same layout (different content) remain with no green.

What is the deal with that?

Has anyone added a new internal page (not just the index page of a domain) within the last 45 days that now shows green?

4:58 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Watching the panic over whether or not there is an update brought this song to mind. Why...
...because I can.

Look at the Serps
(To the tune of "For What it's Worth" by Buffalo Springfield)

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a white little toolbar up there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down

There's conclusions being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Webmasters speaking their minds
Googleguy's not assisting this time

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down

What a field day for Yahoo
A thousand postings say "boo hoo"
Whining long about their plight
Mostly say, hooray for my site

It's time we stop, hey what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the sandbox is where you will stay
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down
Stop hey, what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down
Stop children what's that sound
Nobody knows what's going down

Courtesy Gefilte and the Hoolinet

5:21 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You may have ruined me for that song.
And no Neil Young writing credit?
5:41 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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72 New PR5/6 back links added (total 122 back links) - But PR went on 5 to 4! Do Google ignore PR from reciprocal link exchanges?
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mmm one of my sites got from PR0 to PR4 with only a one back link from a PR4 page (non-receprocal).!
6:05 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anybody notice that a lot of pages have been dropped from the index? I have some large sites, and thousands of pages have dropped out. Are they still in the middle of a big update?

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7:17 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing the opposite. One SERPs we're monitoring increased from 16m to 20m - that's a lot of new pages!
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Holy Mother! Thanks for alerting me to this masive update guys - I just checked and am now PR7! To top it off, most of my secondary pages are PR6. Wow, it's a good feeling to know that all of my sweat equity is paying dividends :)

I'm sorry to hear that some of you are getting nailed by the new update :(

Sean.

7:38 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well done Sean... and it's a nice site you've got there :)
8:00 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Last update was it the same. First link and page rank update and after couple days SERPs update. I can not remeber if it was three days or two weeks. "

I'll say it again. My serps and referrals have changed drastically (for the better). However, my PR is still the same. Also, many pages that are clearly PR4+ are not showing as backlinks (sometimes from the site). Something is still not set...

8:22 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Has anyone added a new internal page (not just the index page of a domain) within the last 45 days that now shows green?"

That's one of the interesting things here. PR update for pages that existed previously, but new pages crawled for the first time a month (or maybe as much as six weeks)ago didn't get PR. Tough to check this on other sites, but easy to check on your own domains.

Another aspect of sandboxing? Some Google meltdown? In whatever case, it is significant that pages were treated differently.

Even more bizarrely, I have backlinks for pages created up to May 17th... but no PR. So this is a fairly complete backlink update, but not a PR one.

8:39 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Similar to that, I've got interior pages almost 4 months old fluctating today between PRzero and PR2. I am seeing PRzero on lots of other websites out there that have been around a long time. I am talking about PR0 on the home page.

Something screwy is going on.

8:42 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone added a new internal page (not just the index page of a domain) within the last 45 days that now shows green?

Two pages (Besides the main page) on one my sites PR was updated, but they didn't do it to about 10 mins ago, so maybe they are not done. Hope not!

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I hope not too. I have so many pages that I need to show PR on (I know it's not that important for SERPs, but for other purposes)badly. They've been up for awhile and have the BL's showing.
9:33 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's the May, 2004 Update!

Yawn.

10:36 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just got back from a short vacation. Backlinks have updated for all of my sites but as of right now only one internal page on one site has new PR.

I'm glad I was gone yesterday and most of today! Wish I had stayed gone another day or two to let the PR settle.

10:51 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I solved my mystery....I think.
I got a nice link around the 10th and I was expecting it to boost the PR. The traffic has increased, but the PR stayed the same (backlinks went down) so I'm thinking that maybe the new links didn't make the date. What will happen to the "increased" traffic? Will the coming SERPS update wipe it since it missed the day or...?
11:22 pm on June 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Most of the updated links seem to be from around 20-30 days ago.
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I'm showing new backlinks which I got between 4/27 and 5/11 although I'm expecting a PR7 which I got on 5/5 and is not listed.
1:26 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Even more bizarrely, I have backlinks for pages created up to May 17th... but no PR. So this is a fairly complete backlink update, but not a PR one.

Yep, the same thing for us. We have pages that have been online for only 3 weeks that show backlinks, but those pages, along with pages online since Apr 15, still have a toolbar PR of zero. Maybe still just a dc thing... haven't bothered to the change hosts file.

The serps haven't budged so it doesn't make much difference.

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same here, new site (3 weeks old) now ranking pretty well and showing a couple of backlinks, but no pr in tool bar, maybe the toolbar will be updated later, or the sandbox thing is perhaps includes being unable to see your new pr for a while?

I have another site and there has been no PR change there either though backlinks updated...

2:53 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing interesting backlinks form Alexa (for example: h*tp://www.alexa.com/browse/categories?catid=******** ).

Alexa never directly links to external sites in the directory but rather uses URL redirects. Nice to see that Google is realising that these are in fact links to external sites!

I suppose this will have a big repercussion for those who are attempting to stop PR leak...

4:28 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's the May, 2004 Update!
Yawn.

Thanks, I needed that laugh:)

5:21 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Updates happen every day or two... someone change the Thread title.
9:00 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wrong there certainly was a nasty update. My visitors were down today by 1000 visitors
11:13 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My site has gone from PR5 to PR6 with most of the internal pages now getting PR5. The strange thing is that I am not seeing any change in traffic yet?
11:27 am on June 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Had the same thing a couple of months ago. My main site keeps pinging between Pr4 and Pr5; has no effect on the keyword SERPS I monitor or on traffic. The last time google chucked the algo out the window had a bigger impact (Jan/ Feb).

Have another site with growing PR; no effect on SERPS or traffic.

It seems to me that PR is simply a hurdle to be overcome. Once you've got enough - depending upon your industry - link text, on page factors and internal structure far more important.

Just my two penneth.

Suggy

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