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Page 1 rankings changed a fair bit, but beyond not much of a difference.
Considering I did not touch the site I handle for these serp's and it isn't in the 1st 1,000 on the other DC's but has come back to #5 on IN - I'd only see it as a good thing. But in general, it seems as if Google tossed a bone to some companies that are on target, and got rid of AOL sub pages with busted links, etc in the Top 10.
Amazon and yahoo directory listings are still there, but so long as I see the domain I handle and even some of my competitor's back on Page 1 - it's a good thing.
It seems to be some sort of 'middle ground' between pre florida and post florida. Of course, this is very dependant upon your slice of the SERP's.
For me- it would be coming back to life strongly and vindication Google actually gave a cr*p about sites that DO try to provide good info- not just for SE's, but for users.
WB
I have two that are citykeyword.com. Both are back top 5 across all DCs. As for how the serps look on -in and www2 and www3, I'm still doing great, but i think half of the serps around me are poor to pathetic.
For one query on -in, "city widget", #10 is a Nov 1st news article with one paragraph about a celebrity's 'city widget' for sale.
The upside of this is a ton of traffic if you happen to be one of the few results that searchers actually expect to find with what most would think to be obvious queries.
I find that huge sites with city sub domains are in flavour with google at the moment. Penalising the keyword domain people is dumb as these are the people who are specialised ( in general) in their field.Coversely the subdomain people are usually part of a huge site and are just trying their luck in a particular location and it is unfortunately working with the present serps.
My 2 cents.
Best,
Martin
Update Greenwich - as long as carraig agrees.
UTC correction=~0 GMT=23:55. good night-sleep tight
I have been waiting for stability, before making any changes, so I can track the success of the changes, however it appears that google is throwing a wrench into the serps, at least on a weekly basis.
Well at least my competitor is gone, as I could never figure how he survived the florida update, as they basically stuck their entire web page in a H1 tag.
False alarm I'd say.
Very welcome development, but I'd call this the pre-game show rather than a full update. Should be more significant changes soon.
Can we really continue to name 'updates'?
With every bit of new data, the way it understands the old data changes. With the addition of just one URL to the index, the algo could "rethink" everything it knew about all of the old data.
Is that why some are calling this an update and some are just seeing "new data"? I'm not sure that updates will ever be clear cut and easy to analyze again.
I hope this isn't what's happening. All of my sites have went from being in the top ten to not being found. At least not in the first six hundred results. I always use keywords in domain names. I want people to know that they have found what they are looking for and I think it can make domain names easier to remember.
I am definately not happy with the new results. I hope this is a dream and I will wake up and my sites will be back in the results.
8:41 GMT England 21st December 2003 ('tis the season of good cheer!)
-in www2 and www3 all same othe DCs results as last week
-In-terestingly: Backlinks have not been updated at all. Does this mean that we are not seeing a major recalc of PR just a shift in the "filter/algo". The thing GG said that they were "having fun playing with".
Best wishes
Sid
Because the full -in change has not been propogated. Only part of the -in change has, at this point, been applied to the other centers. Some searches therefore look more like -in, others do not.
The Filter must have tightened, and this is related to the Anchor Text only for sure.
Is there any geographical divergence of opinion on quality (subjective I know) results on -in. Do americans love em while Brits, Aussies, SAs etc hate em?
Best wishes
Sid
Best wishes
Sid
Edit reason: Script bug chopped my post
Sid,
I am from India
Will this be a permanent trend www-in updating www?
Nothing in this business is permanent.
As i have the advantage of being fluent in Danish, a language spoken by only about 5 mio. people and hence definitely not the language of choice for any large scale semantics database in the works, i can do queries without any broad match and get that component filtered out (no pun intended).
Just did a few searches on "-in" and have been doing so from time to time since around the end of "Update Florida". Just as with "Florida" the SERPS on "-in" are as good as ever. Very accurate and less "noisy". The good news (which can hardly be news anymore) is that apart from the broad match, less "fresh irrelevant", and a somewhat better handling of duplicates, there are no really big changes introduced neither with Florida nor after, although a few tweaks have been made. (imho, fwiw, afaik etc. of course)
Anchor text is as important as ever, perhaps keyword in url have been upped a bit, but i'm not sure about that - on-page factors are still totally irrelevant as compared to anchor text when you've got a lot of it - identical anchor text penalty? No way - just forget it. Keyword in dmoz Directory description is matched, but that came with Florida afaik, or perhaps i just haven't noticed it before. Do keyword in outbound links carry weight? Definitely maybe - for some searches it could look that way, but i'm not sure. Something with alt-texts and other usability stuff, but i might be imagining that as i'm a bit biased there.
Also, the Google directory links on top of the SERPS sometimes point to Swedish, German or Norvegian regional cats, so there's some language confusion (these languages have some terms in common, the meaning can differ)
I've tried a few definitely commercial searches; travel, gaming, shopping, cellphones, hosting, etc. There's some odd things happening with the AdWords - it seems as in some cases they match the Danish words, although the ads are in English. I'm not sure if this is anything new, as i rarely use the "Search Danish pages" option, i usually "search all languages".
Also... i taugt i taw a putticat... there's definitely no stemming yet, but for some searches it seems as though the directories and authorities sites ...you know. I've got no problem finding commercial sites for commercial searches.
>> stemming on backlinks
really? - any signs of stemming on outbound links?
/claus
Sigh of relief.
