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darrell

3:40 pm on Oct 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site was indexed a month ago but now Google shows no information available for this site. I used websposition for this site and did not know any better. Now I know after discovering this forum. Can any one help?

darrell

1:03 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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GOOD NEWS....GOOD NEWS....GOOD NEWS! Roughly 30 Hours of moving my sites from Godaddy to another webhosting company, both of my sites are back in the index! I repeat roughly 30 hours after moving my sites fom godaddy, both of my sites are back in the index! You guys have all been such a great support in all of this. Thank God for Webmasterworld for creating this forum center! But the work is not finished until we can help solve the problems for the rest of our participants in this forum. After all, that's why we are here... to all learn and to help each other.
Darrell

darrell

1:29 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Lawboy, you have no control over who links to you, but you do have control of the out going links on your links partners page. If you are linking to sites who are poorly managing their links page (where there are more than 30 or so links on the page, or if they have placed your link on a page that has little to no page rank, then you are inheriting nothing in return). You are just bleeding page rank uselessly. Get new backlink partners with a page rank or 4 or better. When your page starts bouncing back and forth in the rankings and loosing stability (position 10 one day, position 4 another, and then position 30 the next), many times it's a sign to return to the link factory and start seeking new link partners.

dirkz

4:02 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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but on the two sites I've moved over from Go Daddy it went right back to the index page

You mean the sites are hosted by Go Daddy or not?

I repeat roughly 30 hours after moving my sites fom godaddy, both of my sites are back in the index!

Congratulations! You made it :)

cohesivestrat

4:38 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This has me really nervous. My new site is still real young (6 weeks), but I had links that goolgebot appeared to be following and I saw that specific terms, like company name, were getting people over.

Allinurl shows nothing, nada, zip. I didn't run it before, but this isn't good, right?

How might I check to see if I am doing something terribly wrong, or if I picked the wrong host (not godaddy, but a low cost one none the less)

Thanks Gang!

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 6:15 pm (utc) on Nov. 6, 2003]
[edit reason] no specifics please [/edit]

Zapatista

6:47 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



Good for your darrell, good for you!

Somebody needs to mass email godaddy.com a link to this thread. Their business is just about useless if the search engines can't index godaddy hosted sites. I could kick myself in the rear for ever switching over to them. There goes my Christmas business.

wanna_learn

6:50 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Zap / darell
I did not see Googlebot in Logs for 20 days now!
do you feel..changing the host might bring it to my site?

nixon60

7:01 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Phew. My pages are trickling back in. It started just about 36 hours after moving my sites. I went back in and dumped the "gdform.php" files that Go Daddy added in. No idea what they were yet, but I don't want to carry anything associated with Go Daddy. Thanks again for everyone's input in sleuthing this thing.

dirkz: Yeah, both sites that returned to the index page on bogus URLs were hosted with Go Daddy but the DNS was already resolving to the new server.

nixon60

7:02 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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wanna_learn:
I moved my sites off of Go Daddy late Saturday night and by Monday afternoon I was seeing Googlebot traffic back in all four sites that I moved.

wanna_learn

7:06 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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nixon60,
I am not on Godaddy...
still is it worth moving host and try luck.

U were too not getting Googlebot?

nixon60

7:18 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No, I wasn't getting any traffic from Googlebot. My traffic just dropped. I was really hesitant to change hosts, but Darrell and Zap were right: If you're inexplicably getting dropped from Google and your traffic's drying up, then there's really nothing to lose.

There seems to be another common denominator here, though, since so many other non-Go Daddy customers are having problems. I wish we could get some more insight from Google Guy or someone more in the know.

Zap: I sent an email to Bob Parsons at Go Daddy Saturday night and told him why several webmasters were fleeing his service. No word back. Maybe their awesome customer service stops just short of the president's desk. In any case, I'm trying not to hammer myself over choosing them to begin with. Don't beat yourself up. We couldn't have known. All we can do is dust ourselves off and move on. We'll get it back.

wanna_learn

7:43 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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anybody...who was not on Godaddy..had similar problem and changed the host...and further got back in google?

cohesivestrat

7:59 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So if we are seeing Googlebot, we likely aren't caught up in whatever is tanking Godaddy sites?

Thanks

darrell

8:01 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wanna learn, if you are not hosted with godaddy, and you are experiencing similar problems, then you only have to options: 1: change your website hosting to another company, and 2: keep it where it's at and pray that it returns into the index. In either scenario, it's not going to cost you anything, but it just might make a difference. If you are looking for someone to tell you to switch, no one can tell you that. You have to follow your own gut feelings about the matter, just I and others have done with positive results. Googlebot is now visiting my sites and indexing my pages.

And now for an update: My third site was just indexed by Google!

wanna_learn

8:24 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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darell
you are right, I am killing my frustation here!
Lets try my luck too:-)

darrell

8:38 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Correction to a statement I made about “not costing you anything”. Yes, it will cost you one way or another. No index means no traffic, and no revenue generating activity. So, evaluate your current circumstance, and be ready to accept any outcome resulting from whatever your decide to do. But whatever your do, don’t loose any sleep over contemplations. Make a decision and go with it. What do you have to loose at this point? Either wait it out, or take a more proactive approach. Of course, being proactive involves a certain element of risk. Are you willing to take the risk to solve one of your most perplexing problems? I and other were… and it’s paying off. At least, thus, so far.

Zapatista

10:43 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



Amen brother Darrell, Amen.

Webresultz

4:04 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is my first post so take it easy on me although I have been lurking here for years :)

I'm finding at present that if I redirect my 404 errors to a page on my domain my server shows a 302 error for the page. If I remove my .htaccess completely the server reports an 404 error.

I'm wondering if this is the norm? and if Google see's the 302 error and penalizes the site? I have always sent my 404 traffic back to the index of my domain.

jpalmer

5:28 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Greetings and gidday from downunder folks,

godaddy sites aren't the only ones affected.

I'm NOT with godaddy, and a site we took over and moved to a "good" host, with full redesign and reindex treatment on, has been gradually losing google traffic until in mid september it died completely, not even in the index.

Site previously had WPG keyword pages, which were deleted, but I've been sweating on google spider coming by for *eight weeks*.

2 sessions finally showed up in last couple of days (with looksmart, ink. and AV indexing), but still no serps.

There's absolutely no reason host/site/code and design wise, why this site isn't in the index.

Meanwhile, another of my sites is being absolutely hammered, with google spiders all over it almost every day for the last week with multiple sessions from multiple centres. (I'd almost say "not that I'm complaining", but it's like too much of a good thing, if you what I mean?!)

I'm sweating and waiting on the absent site. If normal transmission isn't resumed in the next week, I'll be looking askance to googleguy, 'cos dagnabit ... summitts up!

Hooroo
JP

polarmate

7:18 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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crawler10.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:25:55 -0500] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 302 311 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"


This line is suspicious, there seems to be a redirect from /robots.txt to another page.

Did you install this on purpose?


That is just GoDaddy's standard 404 page for a site that does not have its own custom 404 page. It 302 redirects to http://example.com/index.html where example.com is the (shared) IP for that web site.

I can't believe that Google is flummoxed by this!

There has to be more to this - some kind of DNS snafu - something with the manner in which the DNS entries are made and Google not being able to resolve them. Why else would Google *still* be showing in the logs of those web sites?

coosblues

7:19 am on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, I'm happy to report that my index page (which had not been visited by Gbot in over a month) just got a fresh tag and a new cached version. I can only conclude that after sitting on Godaddy with no bot visits that was the problem. I had quite a number of other pages get crawled also, along with fresh dates although my Serps are still suffering but I think once all the "new" content filters it's way back in my position will filter back up.

GoogleGuy

4:30 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey, I'm asking around about this at my end. I seem to remember hearing that a registrar asked us to blackhole some of their IP addresses to save server load, but I could be remembering wrong or it could be a different situation; at any rate, I'm asking our crawl folks about this now and we'll check out what's going on.

buzzbeat

6:00 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same experience here - launched three weeks ago - 10 days later site was indexed by google due to backlinks that get indexed regularly - then *poof* gone from Google - not to be found through direct search or keywords (although the backlinks that got us in the index still return in the keyword search). One other interesting note is that we are the .net for this particular domain and I've noticed that the .com domain vanishes and appears from the index regularly as well.

I've emailed Google to see if there is a cause & effect and will pass along any response.

Buzz

GoogleGuy

7:54 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I talked to several crawl folks and I'm pretty convinced that this is at GoDaddy's end--fetching from the normal crawling IPs vs. other IPs shows that we can't get through on the normal crawling IPs but we can from other IPs. The traceroutes seem like it's pretty clear this is on GoDaddy's side of things.

Sorry that there's not much else I can do--if an ISP or site blocks our bots, then those pages won't appear in Google's index.

wanna_learn

8:19 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site is not on GoDaddy, and I also confirmed that ISP do not blocks the bot...as my other sites on same server doing fine.

I am still partially indexed.

Chef_Brian

8:36 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Cheers Godaddy ...

I purchased my dedicated server on Friday .... that $300 bucks I spend each month for hosting on your servers your going to miss!

Dam ... I sure can not wait to cancel my hosting account with them .... I used to average about 5,000 - 7,000 visitors daily with my godaddy sites. The last few days I have had less than 500 a day ...

More than 2000 pages that were fully indexed by google (and ranking well) are gone. I just hope they make a speedy return to the index.

Brian

buzzbeat

9:03 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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According to the weblogs Google came through yesterday right before we vanished from the index: crawl32.googlebot.com - add any light? I think I'm more disturbed than I was before.

Buzz

nixon60

9:11 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the info. I'm spreading all of my sites across several hosts and it's nice to be able to know what to ask before I sign on for a hosting plan. The company I called this morning had heard the same thing. Anyway, a great relief to get confirmation that all of the Go Daddy customers (former Go Daddy customers now) weren't just randomly unlucky. Thanks again.

jpalmer

3:38 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Gidday again,

Nice for godaddy (ex?) customers to get the skinny, but what about the orginal poster, darrell, who started this thread, and the rest of us?

still waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... <grin through gritted teeth>

Hooroo
JP

polarmate

3:48 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thus spake GoogleGuy:
I talked to several crawl folks and I'm pretty convinced that this is at GoDaddy's end--fetching from the normal crawling IPs vs. other IPs shows that we can't get through on the normal crawling IPs but we can from other IPs. The traceroutes seem like it's pretty clear this is on GoDaddy's side of things.

Sorry that there's not much else I can do--if an ISP or site blocks our bots, then those pages won't appear in Google's index.


What if Googlebot shows in their logs? Then it can't be either of what you suggest, right? What would induce Google to start dropping the pages? Before the pages are dropped, the pages showin the SERPs with only the URL - no title, no description, no cache.

super_seo

4:43 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm not on GoDaddy and have my own dedicated server. Our Server holds many many of our sights and none are affected exept this one very important site. I can't figure out what to do, should i move it it an new server? The spiders are gone gone gone, and the number of pages in the index seems to be dropping almost daily. more information can be found here.
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