Not showing up in the index

Was indexed but not now

[darrell]

My site was indexed a month ago but now Google shows no information available for this site. I used websposition for this site and did not know any better. Now I know after discovering this forum. Can any one help?

[coosblues]

I suggest that anyone using godaddy do an allinurl on godaddy. Get to the "omitted results" as you'll be astonished. I've never, ever seen such outrageous listings in my life. Be sure to check the page names too - not only the very frequent OOOPs title pages, but the pages they direct to.

[bucaro]

I have no clue why Google dropped my site from SERPs.

Site had been there for a year. No tricks, great content, design. Link exchanges, paid links.

PR used to be 8 now it dropped to 6, but no where to be found unless you type domain name, domain.com or the full title of my site.

Any help will be appreciated

[Zapatista]

If all the links are going to the www. version of your site that's where the PR will go. Typing in http://mysite - for me and others will show a PR Zero. Don't sweat it.

Move that site to another host. It can't be confirmed but Google doesn't like other hosts as well.

wanna_learn - is that site on the same host as your other 4?

[wanna_learn]

Zap
its on same Server
But it has a Unique Global IP for enabling SSL

All other sites in place! , and one of them even gained PR in last update.

[coosblues]

I think everyone in this thread needs some info which we are unable to obtain ourselves. I know each site is unique, but when Godaddy is appearing all over the message boards - even Google chat why the silence. We don't need detailed information - just one of your "words of wisdom" for us to figure out as you are rather cryptic, but I enjoy that.

[darrell]

It’s great to hear some good news arising out of the dust! I am glad that finally, someone has had positive results form changing web-hosting. I think there will be more successes in the days to come. I have switched over all of my sites and I am now waiting for the new NS to take full effect. Wanna-learn, I don’t have a link to your site so it’s difficult to offer any suggestions. I would guess that you are bouncing as a result from ever-flux. I would get a few more quality backlinks, and check your existing backlinks. If the pages that you have backlinks on have become over crowded, you may not be inheriting as much PR as you once did. I try to never place my links on a page that has more than 30 backlinks on it, and has less than a PR 4 unless it’s a new site that I am launching.

[kpaul]

Just to clarify, the site I posted about above is not hosted by GoDaddy. Personally, I don't think it is a GoDaddy problem...

[darrell]

But... the message that Zap posted about his sites returning into Google's index is in reference to godaddy. No one has proven that this hosting company has done anything wrong. It could many reasons. The fact remains that Zap now has a site that is reindexed. Does this prove that godaddy's servers was the cause? The results are too early and may never be proven. However, if by switching hosts, you experience immediate results, then one must be left to interpret that based upon his or her own beliefs. When your livelihood depends upon fully optimized websites and the trust and confidence of your hosts, it's only prudent to make whatever, adjustments need to be made... even if you suspect the web host's servers. After all, it is your livelihood. However, if you are already a gazillionaire then you can offered to wait 2 to 3 months to see if your sites will come back.

[Zapatista]

Well said Darrell. It is no coincidence that after 3.5 weeks, my site is back in. Ever since it disappeared in Early October, (after I switched to godaddy.com from my old host) I checked Google 3-4 times a day for it. It never showed up.

In the meantime, I negotiated 20 more strong links and checked to see if Googlebot came by. It did. It hit the front page 128 more times since it was lost. I even managed to move from a PR4 to 5 around Oct. 26, thus confirming that Google didn't have a problem with the site.

But still, the site was nowhere to be found and I contemplated sending corpse sniffing dogs out to go look for it.

36 hours after dumping godaddy and changing the NS, it was back in. This was no coincidence.

Dumping godaddy.com didn't cost me anymore then it did with my new host. It only cost me about 1 hour of time. It was a gamble but at that point, I had nothing to lose because the situation just wasn't going to get any worse.

True, it's only my front page and about 10 percent of my 158 interior pages, and my ranking is gone, but I am just thankful for the small miracle of seeing that front page back in Google. I am confident that in another 2 weeks or so, all the pages will be back in and I will regain the top 10 ranking I had.

[netnerd]

Is it godaddy hosting thats the problem , or will it be if you have your domain names with them and host elsewhere?

[darrell]

It should not matter if you have your domain registered with them. There is nothing that they can do with that. Google can care less about the domain name perse, but it's what's on the server that counts when the google spider comes crawling along. If the spider can't find or get through to your site on the servers, or detects something repulsive like Raid, they will simply stay away until the area is cleared or corrected. Ants are the same way. :-)

[Eric in Tennessee]

hey lawboy--

1. 196 blinks
2. 195 blinks
3. 501 blinks
4. 2590 blinks

1 and 2 must have nice anchor text or something.

[lawboy]

You're right.

I just sampled some of the #1 site's blinks and 90% of them had the keyword phrase in anchor text.

The #1 site has the keyword phrase maybe twice in the entire page. Damn, this anchor text stuff really weighs a helluva lot.

[Eric in Tennessee]

Are saying that if I am trying to rank for "totally hypothetical anchor text," and all things being equal (which is not possible - URL, but go with me anyway)...

Okay so all things being equal(=)

site1 with a link from a page that has "totally hypothetical anchor text" only in the ANCHOR text.

site2 with a link from a page that has "totally hypothetical anchor text" scattered all over the page.

Site 1 wins? Is that right? Did I make my question as clear as mud?

[Rajiv]

Hi Darell,

I read your comment about godaddy.. and precisely, I have one of my site's with godaddy and facing the same probles of not being cached and listed in Google results with no title and description.

After a small analysis, I found that even godaddy has no title and description in google (just type their url in google search box and see for yourself).. I guess you are right.. this has some thing to do with godaddy, who now are placing a gdform.php file on every client's server.. (I am not sure what this file is.. and if this is the same with you.. just check it and let me know!)

With warm regards
Rajiv

[darrell]

OK guys... I need you help with this. I moved my sites already. I know that Google is once again crawling my site. Below I have pasted the raw log data. Can anyone in the forum tell me if all looks good? Do I have anything to be concerned about? You guys have all been such a great help.

crawler10.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:25:55 -0500] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 302 311 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler10.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:25:59 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 10958 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler10.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:26:00 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 10958 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler14.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:46:04 -0500] "GET /internet-video-conferencing.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 7294 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler13.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:10:22 -0500] "GET /dsl_disclaimer.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 6406 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler14.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:22:44 -0500] "GET /dsl_privacy_policy.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 8123 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler13.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:36:25 -0500] "GET /new-articles.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 9383 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler13.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:43:51 -0500] "GET /dsl_service_providers.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 7922 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler10.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:56:47 -0500] "GET /wireless--dsl-routers.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 8278 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler11.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:57:30 -0500] "GET /partner-sites.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 11224 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler10.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:00:58:18 -0500] "GET /site-map.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 10038 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler10.googlebot.com - - [03/Nov/2003:01:01:49 -0500] "GET /high-speed-satellite-internet.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 9219 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

[sparrow]

Excuse, but I don't believe the problem is ONLY GO DADDY. By READING this thread there seems to be others that are experience the same problem and they DO NOT USE Go Daddy.

Is any one interested in helping these people!

[darrell]

Rajiv, I am not sure what that gdform.php file is. But I noticed that I had the same thing on mine. I am sure that there is someone more informed that can possibly comment on that. Sparrow you are right... the problem is not only with godaddy. Some of these problems are do to fact that newer sites bounce in and out and others? Well it would depend upon how well each site is optimized... all things being equal. I personally would like to know what that gdform.php is all about too.

[Rajiv]

Thank you darell for your info about gdform.php.. I'll try to figure out what this file is all about..

Meanwhile, netnerd : are those 2 site's hosted on godaddy?

[dirkz]

crawler10.googlebot.com - - [02/Nov/2003:23:25:55 -0500] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 302 311 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

This line is suspicious, there seems to be a redirect from /robots.txt to another page.

Did you install this on purpose?

The rest looks good though (200 as response).

[netnerd]

My 2 sites had top ten positions for about a year and last month took a dive. They now dont have any backlinks showing despite haveing over 800+ "contains the term" links.

They are still in the cache and have good pagerank (PR5) so whats up?

Not hosted on godaddy either.

[darrell]

DIRKZ I never installed any redirects on any of my pages. What should I look for? Is this something contained on one of my web pages?

[darrell]

Netnerd... if you are still cached, I would seriously look at the quality of your incoming backlinks. The pages containing your backlinks may have had great PR at one time, however if many other websites have been added to the same link pages, or the webmasters reorganized their links pages i.e. created categories, your anchored text link may have been relocated to pages containing low or no PR. I have a friend that has 25 sites. And every time he encounters what you just explained, he goes back in a looks at the website pages containing his anchored text. Not only that but he also gets more incoming anchored text backlinks, and in two weeks or so he regains his top positions. It works every time. It might be time to rework your links. Purging those who no longer have a PR to give due to over crowding causing the PR inheritance to dilute.

[dirkz]

Darrell, just checked your site and saw your robots.txt is redirected to the robots.txt on the same server.

I don't know whether this is a problem, but it could definitely confuse Googlebot.

Since your host seems to run apache I would check for any .htaccess files in your root directory.

[darrell]

Dirkz, where do you check for robots.txt info? I want to take a look at it before I contact the web host. Or see if it's something that I can correct myself

[dirkz]

Didn't see your post, sorry. Just sent you a mail.

The log entry is prove enough. It says "302" after the GET request.

You can also use the server header checker on searchengineworld. There you can also see where Googlebot and others are redirected to.

[darrell]

I found this info in the htaccess files of my site. Can anyone comment on this?

# -FrontPage-

IndexIgnore .htaccess */.?* *~ *# */HEADER* */README* */_vti*

<Limit GET POST>
order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from all
</Limit>
<Limit PUT DELETE>
order deny,allow
deny from all
</Limit>

[dirkz]

Darrel, just saw your mail and checked your htaccess. It's allright, at least regarding redirects.

But I discovered a problem:

Your server is setup to deliver a 302 (temporarily moved) with the top domain as the new location for every request that can't be fulfilled. This is abnormal behavior for a server.

This is simply not the right thing on the web. A web server should deliver a 404 if a resource could not be found. The way your server handles the robots.txt request is that it says to Googlebot: It's not there, please take "/" as robots.txt. This really could lead to strange results.

Try it out. Go to the server header checker and type in bogus URLs (located under your root domain) and see which response you get. It should be 404 for non-existing documents, but in your case it's not.

[lawboy]

Darrell, you said to "purge" some backlinks. How is that possible? If someone links to you, then you have no control, right?

[nixon60]

Darrell (and anyone else who's moved off of Go Daddy),
This might be a red flag. I tried dirkz' suggestion to you regarding the redirect to the index page instead of showing a 404. I tried bogus URLs on six domains on three different servers--I got the 404 on four of them, but on the two sites I've moved over from Go Daddy it went right back to the index page, as dirkz said it would.

Zapatista, have you tried this yet? Anyone else have any thoughts? Good eye, dirkz. Thanks.