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WebmasterWorld Google Update Changes:
The problem: Chit chat noise in update threads.
Last month we hand several thousand messages posted about the update. The volume level was intense and people couldn't find the info that was appropriate. Many senior members complained about the "me too" chit chat messages being left.
We are not going to do that this month. If you don't have anything new to add to a thread thing please kick back and read. Additionally, we are going to be proactive in keeping those threads clean. Again, the volume is so high this time of month that informing everyone of any thread tidying is near impossible.
We would appreciate your continued latitude, cooperation (thanks), and patience as we head into this months update.
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Understanding Dominic: (the previous update):
This one competely wiped us out.
Months worth of work getting links, gone, SERPs gone, yet fresh doorway pages spam their way to the top.
If this is the new Google, I want the old Google back.
This sucks big time.
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 11:06 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]
Sorry.. with the mess google has been creating latley been out of the loop... been totally ignoring google actually as it has not been kind to me lately...
<edit> Thanks netnerd! </edit>
I can't understand the correct protocal for checking backlinks. Is it:
Notice the space, or:
All produce different results on fi.
Q: Can I compare link counts from the Esmeralda index to pre-Dominic link counts?
A: No, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
Q: Can I compare link counts from Dominic to this Esmeralda update?
A: Yes. That's comparing apples to apples. :)
Q: Is the PageRank showing for my site my final PageRank?
A: Probably not. Unless you're really familiar with hosts files, toolbarqueries.google.com, and DNS, your toolbar might be talking to the older index. If you feel adventurous about these subjects, feel free to hotwire your DNS entries, but I'd recommend that most people wait for the index to settle down more and just check their PR then.
Q: I have 500 pages indexed, but I don't see my backlinks. Should I worry?
A: No. We don't show backlinks below a certain PR threshold. The fact that we crawled and indexed pages from your site is eveidence that we found and handled those links correctly though.
Maybe I'll add to it if other people have related questions. :)
Thanks GG, but that does not make me feel better, as I'm now actually ranking much worse in almost all my keywords. I'm in a tight little niche, and my competitors aren't doing anything to improve their rankings nor are they particularly more relevant, in fact, at least two of them are considerably LESS relevant, so there's no real reason for me to suddenly drop to the bottom of the barrel.
This crapshoot blows.
I'm thinking there's got to be a few others here experiencing this. Thanks.
[edited by: TheAutarch at 11:26 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]
NexDog, no space after the "link:"--that will search for the word link. I normally do link:www.domain.com or link:domain.com if the first one didn't seem to work.
I couldn't really say why one site was doing better or worse in rankings. If a site is missing entirely from the index using the command above, and you know there hasn't been any hidden text/links or tricks like that, feel free to do a spam report and use the phrase "esmeralda missingsite" in the comments. In general, if people have feedback on the new index, I would use the word "esmeralda" in spam reports to let us check out specific searches or sites. Hope that helps--I'd be interested to hear feedback about searches that are doing well or poorly in the new index, so that we can make sure we're doing the best job possible.
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 11:30 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]
2 sites in same industry one blue one red widgets. both had 82 backlinks during Dominic and ranked roughly the same.
Now on the fi server one site has 6 backlinks and ranks #1 for 3 major search terms whilst the other site has 99 backlinks and ranks on the 4th or 5th page!
1) The toolbar seems not to guess pagerank any more (at least not on the fi index). Unindexed pages on existing sites (like this page here) get PR0
2) Backlinks show up on Pagerank 4 pages.
3) MSN is now number 1 for "worst search engine" ;)
[edited by: SlyOldDog at 11:33 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]